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    Re: Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters

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    Books like The Adventures of Huckleberry Finn have long been banned in many schools and libraries over alleged racism. Could Pippi Longstocking be next? According to one theologian, Astrid Lindgren's classic children's novels about the pig-tailed adventurer feature unsavory "colonial racist stereotypes." Pippi joins a long list of surprising children's characters who have been accused of racism. From Babar to the Smurfs, here's a look:

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    I didn't know you had Pippi in America. I used to read them as a kid in Sweden, she was the little girl that was really strong, right?

    I'm sure a lot of that stuff would be inappropriate today, maybe there are racist undertones, but you have to think that was written in a different era with different standards.

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    Re: Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I didn't know you had Pippi in America. I used to read them as a kid in Sweden, she was the little girl that was really strong, right?

    I'm sure a lot of that stuff would be inappropriate today, maybe there are racist undertones, but you have to think that was written in a different era with different standards.

    If the standard at that time was to make children's book with all people in the nude, would that be acceptable to you now to show to children?
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    Re: Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters

    Quote Originally Posted by americanwoman View Post
    If the standard at that time was to make children's book with all people in the nude, would that be acceptable to you now to show to children?
    Well I don't have any objection to nudity, so I wouldn't care if my kids saw that. But, if what you're trying to say is that certain literature is appropriate in certain situations (or time periods), that's pretty much what I was saying too.

    A lot of the old disney stuff was racist. I'm sure people have fond memories but it's time to pull it off the shelves. Same could be true for Pippi. Who knows. I would have to see the book.

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    Re: Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm talking about Pippi Longstocking and Chronicles of Narnia. Most children are not going to understand these references that you are all referring to. They are just enjoying the adventures.
    Yes and no. Remember that issue surrounding the Common Core lesson plan sheet that involved a student reading about how the President tries his hardest to do the right thing and that the needs of the individual subside to the needs of the many? If children are not going to understand the references in that lesson plan, I would likewise argue the same with the Pippi Longstocking or Tin-Tin. However, if conservatives can generally agree there is some issue surrounding the references in the Common Core lesson being able to potentially indoctrinate students, then they should be willing to entertain the notion that the ideas found in these books will influence children/students.
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    Re: Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Yes and no. Remember that issue surrounding the Common Core lesson plan sheet that involved a student reading about how the President tries his hardest to do the right thing and that the needs of the individual subside to the needs of the many? If children are not going to understand the references in that lesson plan, I would likewise argue the same with the Pippi Longstocking or Tin-Tin. However, if conservatives can generally agree there is some issue surrounding the references in the Common Core lesson being able to potentially indoctrinate students, then they should be willing to entertain the notion that the ideas found in these books will influence children/students.
    I have no idea what a "common core lesson plan" is. I'm not a teacher, and I'm not trying to make any political statement. I'm simply stating the fact that children enjoy the stories and couldn't care less about the "adult politics" behind the story. We've all read these books and stories, and they certainly don't turn people into racists. That is retarded.

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    Re: Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters

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    lol, so were going to ignore the rants about it having nothing to do with Christianity? Like I said, stop panhandling for attention, it's pathetic
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    Re: Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters

    Quote Originally Posted by ChrisL View Post
    I'm talking about Pippi Longstocking and Chronicles of Narnia. Most children are not going to understand these references that you are all referring to. They are just enjoying the adventures.
    I agree with those two. I'm still wondering what the racist themes of Pippi Longstocking actually are
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    Re: Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters

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    Having played Cowboys and Indians as a child, and remembering how no one wanted to be an Indian, I have to disagree about them not making connections.
    Hell everyone wanted to be the indians here especially if Custard was involved

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    Re: Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    I didn't know you had Pippi in America. I used to read them as a kid in Sweden, she was the little girl that was really strong, right?

    I'm sure a lot of that stuff would be inappropriate today, maybe there are racist undertones, but you have to think that was written in a different era with different standards.
    I think one really has to look for these overtones, as a matter of fact needing something to complain about would have to be a top trait.

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    Re: Pippi Longstocking and 6 other supposedly racist children's characters

    I suppose I would divide the discussion in two, myself. Are they racist is one consideration. Should they be banned is another.

    There are varying degrees of racism in many oft these books, but instead of banning them and relegating them to the dustbin of history, why not use them as illustrative, instead? By turning racist stereotypes into learning tools, a teacher can combat racism rather than promote it, and by doing so, can work to undo such stereotypes by placing them into their proper historical context.
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