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    Re: Child taken from womb by social services

    Quote Originally Posted by Andalublue View Post
    Well, there have been numerous and well-publicised cases where social services over-reach, negligence and malpractice have led to some terrible outcomes. The case from the OP may or may not be such a case, we simply don't have the evidence to make a judgement, yet.

    I do agree that a lot of people here are making wild assumptions based on scant accurate information and some seriously dodgy reporting, fed no doubt by a liberal (or conservative) dose of paranoia.
    I was commenting on the notion that anyone for any reason can make a claim that you are a bad parent and the DHS will swoop in a take your kids away without any evidence or proof. That happens in the movies yes, but not really in real life. Granted there are stories where people have lost their children for a period of time during investigations of abuse etc... However this poster was making it seem as though this was the norm, not the exception.

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    Re: Child taken from womb by social services

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I was commenting on the notion that anyone for any reason can make a claim that you are a bad parent and the DHS will swoop in a take your kids away without any evidence or proof. That happens in the movies yes, but not really in real life. Granted there are stories where people have lost their children for a period of time during investigations of abuse etc... However this poster was making it seem as though this was the norm, not the exception.

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    Fair enough. I certainly don't believe that such abuses are very common at all, certainly not in the UK or Spain. I couldn't really comment on the US.
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    Re: Child taken from womb by social services

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    Oh please.. Seriously you watch too many movies.

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    Seriously, no I don't......Just go on the internet and look up such websites as "Fight CPS", "Kidjacked" and the many blogs devoted to this subject and you will find the truth about child protective services in this country...

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    Re: Child taken from womb by social services

    Quote Originally Posted by Hicup View Post
    I was commenting on the notion that anyone for any reason can make a claim that you are a bad parent and the DHS will swoop in a take your kids away without any evidence or proof. That happens in the movies yes, but not really in real life. Granted there are stories where people have lost their children for a period of time during investigations of abuse etc... However this poster was making it seem as though this was the norm, not the exception.

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    You should do some investigating before being so quick in your judgement....

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    Re: Child taken from womb by social services

    I still remember the UK case of conjoined twins. Doctors said unless separated they both would only live a few years, but if they were surgical separated, one could have a full life span, though the other killed in the process. The mother said no, let them both live as long as they do. But a UK court ruled to kill one of the children to give the other a full lifespan.

    A lot of things about the UK really sucks. It seems Americans don't understand what the America Revolutionary war was about really.

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    Re: Child taken from womb by social services

    Quote Originally Posted by Juanita View Post
    This has very little to do with Britain's healthcare system, but everything to do with their Social Services....Ours is as bad or worse than theirs....Ours
    may not force the hospital to take the baby out, but they will sure be there to take it from the hospital..

    Did you know that you have no civil rights when dealing with your County Department of Human or Social Services? Did you know that your local DHS office has more power than your local police department?

    Did you know that they can come to your home, without a warrant or court order, and seize your children on the complaint of a teacher, neighbor, or relative? Did you know that they can snatch your children if you leave them unattended for a few moments, even if it isn't against the law?
    Yes, I do anyway.

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    Re: Child taken from womb by social services

    Did they also anally probe her for 14 hours?

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    Re: Child taken from womb by social services

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Child taken from womb by social services - Telegraph

    So the woman is in the UK for some kind of job training. Apparently she's being treated for some kind of bipolar disorder. She gets off her meds and calls the cops who take her to the nut house where a decision is made to take her baby.

    She's not a citizen of the UK.

    OK...so this isn't one of those things we discuss when talking about nationalized health care but should it be? Is this really the kind of decision we want the government to be making for us? I mean, near as I can tell there was no representation for this woman until after the fact.
    This doesn't require a national health care system. It just requires a government powerful enough to pull rank over other entities. We have that right here in America, and have for a long time.

    I'm having an out-of-body experience just letting it sink in that this really happened. I can't even formulate a reaction. What in the hell is happening to the world?

    They tranqued her like a wildebeest and cut her child out of her. I'm literally struck dumb that this has actually occurred. But really, terrible stuff has been going on for a while in both Britain and the US. Stuff that was inconceivable just 30 years ago.

    Why are people still not doing anything? Why is it still silent in all the places it really counts?

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    Re: Child taken from womb by social services

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Yep, that's in the story. Apparently the court denied the father's sister custody because she's not a "blood relative."
    Yes and right after that it mentioned that the child is to be adopted by strangers. Its all messed up.
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    Re: Child taken from womb by social services

    Quote Originally Posted by SmokeAndMirrors View Post
    This doesn't require a national health care system. It just requires a government powerful enough to pull rank over other entities. We have that right here in America, and have for a long time.

    I'm having an out-of-body experience just letting it sink in that this really happened. I can't even formulate a reaction. What in the hell is happening to the world?

    They tranqued her like a wildebeest and cut her child out of her. I'm literally struck dumb that this has actually occurred. But really, terrible stuff has been going on for a while in both Britain and the US. Stuff that was inconceivable just 30 years ago.

    Why are people still not doing anything? Why is it still silent in all the places it really counts?
    The reason people aren't doing anything is because they have become accustomed to government being the answer to their needs and desires. What are they going to do, bite the hand that feeds them? If there was ever a textbook example of why I am opposed to ceding more and more responsibility to a central government this is it.

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