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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Visbek View Post
    Funny you say that, since US conservatives and Republicans have been looking down (and spitting upon) the "masses" that don't pay income taxes.



    Gipper used the phrase, in the first post of this thread.



    None of that excludes the option by employees to protest when faced with what they regard as unfair (or unsafe) working conditions. The fact that you agree to work somewhere does not mean you surrender unilaterally to your employer on every point.

    Nor is this an example of "entitlement." They don't want to work on a national holiday, and their jobs are not critical in nature. As such, they are well within their rights to coordinate in this fashion.



    You also get what you're willing to fight for. If employees can get together and fight (peacefully) to get a holiday off, good on them.
    * I doubt US conservatives and Republicans look down on and spit upon those who don't pay income taxes. Isn't it liberals, behind the great Obama, who claim everyone should be paying their "fair share"? Do you think paying nothing is anyone's fair share? I do, but I certainly don't think that upwards of 50% should be paying nothing.

    * The person who responded to my post used the phrase, therefore he either agreed with its use or felt it was fair comment - I don't.

    * No one is condoning unsafe working conditions - that's not relevant to this discussion at all.

    * I have no objection to these people striking - I don't object to anyone taking their own lives into their own hands. I also, however, expect and would condone the dismissal or some other penalty be assigned to any employee who was scheduled to work and didn't show up without a doctor's note or a body cast. You can't assume rights without being able to accept consequences.

    * True, retail is not "critical in nature", but if your business's competition is open on the holiday and you're not, that could be a critical mistake and very harmful to your business. That's also not for me to judge - that's the business owner's decision. As long as there are no laws banning retail openings on any holiday, there are no legal restrictions on you opening your store and your employees don't have a "right" to deny you staffing unless they are willing to accept unemployment as a result, if that happens.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    dam ... it seems I stumbled upon a thread with some folks in a nasty mood ... Did your turkey burn? Wow.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    GEEZ, this is getting ridiculous. Even 20, 30, 40 years ago, grocery stores were open till about 2pm for anyone who forgot to buy the cranberry sauce or something. I don't get what they're complaining about unless literally every employee is required to be in the store from 6am-10pm.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    I don't agree that it's strikeworthy, but they shouldn't be forced to work Thanksgiving.
    Why not? That's their job. Nobody is holding a gun to their heads, they can quit and go find another job that doesn't require them to work nights, weekends and holidays.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Why not? That's their job. Nobody is holding a gun to their heads, they can quit and go find another job that doesn't require them to work nights, weekends and holidays.

    I love that fairy tale. Enjoy your Thanksgiving.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Why not? That's their job. Nobody is holding a gun to their heads, they can quit and go find another job that doesn't require them to work nights, weekends and holidays.
    Not always easy to get a government job, but I agree - why not think big!!
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    I'm sure they have enough people to where everyone on payroll won't have to work. If they went down the seniority line to see who wanted to work and who didn't, that'd be fine. Some employees will want to work, since it won't be for all day, and they'll be making time and a half.

    However, if you've been there 2 months and lots of other people want it off, tough crap for them.
    That is what I was thinking. I worked, as you well know, in fine dining, and it was the reverse for the front of house staff. We WANTED to work the holidays because you got all these damn happy guests, big parties, automatic 18% gratuity where they almost always tipped on top of that. When I bartended a couple of Christmas parties I made my $25 bucks an hour but what made it great was the $300 dollar tip and the case of Kettle 1 Vodka as a tip. I can see my family the rest of the time...
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    I love that fairy tale. Enjoy your Thanksgiving.
    It's not a fairy tale, they have the right to find any job that will pay them for their skills. Sorry if you don't understand that. Enjoy your fantasy world.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Not always easy to get a government job, but I agree - why not think big!!
    Hey, I don't work nights, weekends or holidays and neither does my wife. Of course, we are both educated professionals who have put in our time working our way up, unlike these people who are bottom of the barrel. It can be done, it just takes work, not just a bunch of liberal whining about how unfair things are.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    How dare people dislike something and then act to change a thing they dislike. That's messed up, man.
    Kinda like the Ku Klux Klowns protesting against de-segregation...right?

    No one is saying that they can't protest, only that their grevance is stupid; just like the Ku Klux Klowns protestin de-segregation.
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