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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Do you ever go to a movie on Thanksgiving or Christmas?
    Nope. We watch any of the hundreds of movies we have. We eat. We laugh. We sing songs. We basically spend time with each other. Tough concept to grasp for the majority of people today.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Not to mention they get time and a half working holidays. It's a shift a lot of folks in retail volunteer for, or used to when I worked retail.
    That's fine...for those that choose that. But many get no choice.

    I'm against stores being open on Thanksgiving and Christmas but that's just my personal belief. I dont feel the need to make laws about it but if enough people felt similarly, then they wouldnt shop on those days and it wouldnt be worth opening.

    I personally do not shop on Thanksgiving, Christmas, or Christmas Eve. And dammit! I'm out of coffee creamer!
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    I don't think a Thanksgiving has passed yet where I wasn't at grocery store picking up something that was needed for the meal that was discovered we didn't have. Well, ok, I can, but it doesn't happen nearly often enough.
    Last edited by Henrin; 11-28-13 at 02:03 PM.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Nope. We watch any of the hundreds of movies we have. We eat. We laugh. We sing songs. We basically spend time with each other. Tough concept to grasp for the majority of people today.
    Times change. It's not for the government to force some obsolete idea that certain days have to be designated family-only time. That's not for everybody, and, increasingly it's not for anybody.

    Instead of resisting change due to personal prejudice, people need to respect the rights of others to require their employees to show up to work.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    You didn't catch me saying all liberals are rich - those are your words. But the ones who are rich are often the snotty ones like Bloomburg or any number of Hollywood types who can't wait to look down on the masses and put them in their place.
    Funny you say that, since US conservatives and Republicans have been looking down (and spitting upon) the "masses" that don't pay income taxes.


    And you didn't catch me saying the workers at Whole Foods are "f'n wage scrubs" - those are your words.
    Gipper used the phrase, in the first post of this thread.


    I honor all work but I expect people to honor their work commitment, that being to work the hours they agreed to when hired, the hours assigned, and for the wages they agreed to when hired or any such additional monies they have been granted through hard work or promotion.
    None of that excludes the option by employees to protest when faced with what they regard as unfair (or unsafe) working conditions. The fact that you agree to work somewhere does not mean you surrender unilaterally to your employer on every point.

    Nor is this an example of "entitlement." They don't want to work on a national holiday, and their jobs are not critical in nature. As such, they are well within their rights to coordinate in this fashion.


    You get what you deserve and you deserve what you get unless you're willing to improve yourself and your value to someone who wants to buy your services.
    You also get what you're willing to fight for. If employees can get together and fight (peacefully) to get a holiday off, good on them.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Times change. It's not for the government to force some obsolete idea that certain days have to be designated family-only time. That's not for everybody, and, increasingly it's not for anybody.

    Instead of resisting change due to personal prejudice, people need to respect the rights of others to require their employees to show up to work.
    Nobody claimed otherwise. Now run along with your strawman.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Nobody claimed otherwise. Now run along with your strawman.
    Bull****. Plenty of people have claimed otherwise. Yourself included, at least implied so. You just haven't got the balls to take an actual stand.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Bull****. Plenty of people have claimed otherwise. Yourself included, at least implied so. You just haven't got the balls to take an actual stand.
    Your Libertarian crystal ball about what is and isn't implied doesn't change much about your strawman. Either show evidence or run along with it.
    Last edited by Hatuey; 11-28-13 at 02:29 PM.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    My experience is the owner often has the ass manager handle holidays.

    Big difference between friday and thanksgiving.

    There is a huge difference between government jobs (fun to watch so many CONs point to the sacrificing government workers after spending an entire year blasting them as over paid and incompetent) and low wage service sector jobs. You really need Pizza Hut to be open?

    Big difference between manning the ramparts of Freedom and a cash register so some dumb ass smuck can buy a can of corn, or pummel each other for one of three cheap TVs in stock.

    Once upon a time most of us took the day off to be with family, now it is go-go commercialism.

    What I am waiting for is the bracket creep, like there was in immigration. As long as the competition was for picking lettuce or mowing lawns most the middle class just shrugged- no skin off their nose. NOW as immigrants work up the skill ladder, more and more citizens sit up and squawk.

    All well and good to snicker at the retail low end workers- until YOUR boss says no more holidays.
    There's a certain tinge of judgementalism in your post. That's not me - I'm the type of conservative that isn't interested in or doesn't judge you and your personal tastes or likes/dislikes. Who am I to say that someone who lives alone and can't afford or need a big turkey dinner can't enjoy him/herself and order from or go to Pizza Hut? Likewise, who am I to say someone who likes shopping on their day off shouldn't be able to go shopping if they choose?

    One of the main rationales for stores being open 24/7 and on holidays is because many in society these days work two or three jobs and it's hard for them to get to a store during regular store hours. Likewise, if someone forgets that can of corn and the family loves canned corn with their turkey dinner, who am I to disappoint the little ones and not let mom or dad run out and get that precious corn.

    Bottom line, there are 11 million people in the US looking for work and unemployed and there are at least that many who've given up trying to find work because there's just not any out there. If opening up some stores on a holiday gives more people employment, thus more money to spend, thus less government money needed to support them, and make them feel like they're contributing, who am I to say that's wrong.

    Finally, not once have I "snickered at the retail low end workers" - that's on you. I honor all forms of work. Isn't it funny that you're the second person who's complained about my views and supposedly been supportive of those working on holidays who's found a need to be dismissive and unkind when describing retail workers?
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    They can change jobs. Dislike it from the unemployment line.

    WF should fire the lot of them.
    I agree that WF should be able to fire them, however, I also agree with the fact they are protesting. No day is sacred anymore and I think that cheapens our country. These people are attempting to draw attention to that.
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