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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yeah, Whole Foods is the man. You should bone up on your friends and enemies to the cause list.
    Whole Foods was founded by a libertarian. Despite the fact that its brand is oriented towards hippy-dippy liberals, Whole Foods is very much "the man."

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Yeah, it does. If Wal Mart wants to sell me a TV on Thanksgiving there is no reason they shouldn't be able to. And if an employee doesn't want to show up for work when he's required then he can quit or get fired.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    I dunno - if some liberal diva decides she needs some Spicy Wine Mustard for her turkey sandwich later tomorrow, those damn peons better open up and let her in or there's gonna be hell to pay.
    Note to self: get spicy wine mustard for turkey sandwiches.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    So, the corollary to your rant would be that no one should be allowed to work on a holiday if not all people are expected or required to work on a holiday. Correct? So that single college student who loves getting paid double time to work 8 hours on Thanksgiving and then go home to dinner with the family after work should be forced not to work or receive that benefit.

    There was a time when it was illegal to work on holidays or even work on Sundays - you want to go back to those days, do you? We are putting our values where our mouths are, right?
    I'm saying if business wants to make profit on a holiday, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Also, it seems to me these employees did not wish to take the overtime pay. They wanted to spend it with family otherwise they wouldn't strike.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

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    Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I'm saying if business wants to make profit on a holiday, what's good for the goose is good for the gander. Also, it seems to me these employees did not wish to take the overtime pay. They wanted to spend it with family otherwise they wouldn't strike.
    Three points:

    1. In many retail businesses, the owner of the store also works on the holiday and is often part of the sales crew to cut down on overhead costs - so, in your example, the gander is working so all the little worker goslings must work too, if asked.

    2. When I was working, it was a pain sometimes to work on a Friday - those long weekends were great - according to you, I should just be able to book off every Friday to satisfy my needs, not the needs of my employer.

    3. Those businesses, government, etc. who give their employees the Friday off after Thanksgiving Day should be forced to haul their employees in and make them work because lots of other people work on that day - or do you consider the days after a holiday to be sacred, non-work allowed days?
    "Liberals claim to want to give a hearing to other views, but then are shocked and offended to discover that there are other views." William F. Buckley Jr.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Good morning Lady P - aren't you supposed to be slaving over a hot stove about now?

    Or are you striking for higher wages?
    Got the slaving part handled early this morning, now it's the oven's turn...

    and for the record, I'd settle for minimum wage if it were offered! Maybe I erred in the past when I used to holler "you think this kitchen is a restaurant?" so they probably thought it was a free soup kitchen BTW, I understand your Mom cooking meals all day long for her dear little boys!

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Guy Incognito View Post
    Are there no prisons? Are there no workhouses?
    i hear they serve mayonnaise at those places.


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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Three points:

    1. In many retail businesses, the owner of the store also works on the holiday and is often part of the sales crew to cut down on overhead costs - so, in your example, the gander is working so all the little worker goslings must work too, if asked.

    2. When I was working, it was a pain sometimes to work on a Friday - those long weekends were great - according to you, I should just be able to book off every Friday to satisfy my needs, not the needs of my employer.

    3. Those businesses, government, etc. who give their employees the Friday off after Thanksgiving Day should be forced to haul their employees in and make them work because lots of other people work on that day - or do you consider the days after a holiday to be sacred, non-work allowed days?
    Point 1. When I used that expression I meant if retail does it why not business in general??? Would people who think it's fine for others to do it, would they too be willing to do it in their line of work because the business can make profit or would they think business can wait one day?

    2. Your second point doesn't apply because working Friday is not at all the same thing as working Thanksgiving.

    3. No, that is not what I said at all. I clearly stated for those willing to say people in retail should work Thanksgiving and had the opinion they should suck it up, do they feel the same about themselves if their own place of business decided to open on Thanksgiving?

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Three points:

    1. In many retail businesses, the owner of the store also works on the holiday and is often part of the sales crew to cut down on overhead costs - so, in your example, the gander is working so all the little worker goslings must work too, if asked.

    2. When I was working, it was a pain sometimes to work on a Friday - those long weekends were great - according to you, I should just be able to book off every Friday to satisfy my needs, not the needs of my employer.

    3. Those businesses, government, etc. who give their employees the Friday off after Thanksgiving Day should be forced to haul their employees in and make them work because lots of other people work on that day - or do you consider the days after a holiday to be sacred, non-work allowed days?
    My experience is the owner often has the ass manager handle holidays.

    Big difference between friday and thanksgiving.

    There is a huge difference between government jobs (fun to watch so many CONs point to the sacrificing government workers after spending an entire year blasting them as over paid and incompetent) and low wage service sector jobs. You really need Pizza Hut to be open?

    Big difference between manning the ramparts of Freedom and a cash register so some dumb ass smuck can buy a can of corn, or pummel each other for one of three cheap TVs in stock.

    Once upon a time most of us took the day off to be with family, now it is go-go commercialism.

    What I am waiting for is the bracket creep, like there was in immigration. As long as the competition was for picking lettuce or mowing lawns most the middle class just shrugged- no skin off their nose. NOW as immigrants work up the skill ladder, more and more citizens sit up and squawk.

    All well and good to snicker at the retail low end workers- until YOUR boss says no more holidays.

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