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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You think this is about holidays?

    Once the employees know they have you over a barrel, they will demand many more things that hurt the business.

    What will you do then?

    Where will your red line be?

    Most of us business owners have long ago crossed our red lines when we have been screwed over by employees that we have bent over backwards to help.

    At some point you realize that an employee is the same as a desk or whatever else you have in the office. If you get involved in their personal lives, you lose.

    You may think that is harsh, but you will learn that if you ever open your own business.

    What you do for employees is never enough, so put away some cash to cover what the bad employees will cost you. It will happen.
    I agree 100%, except your first line. It IS about holidays. Used to be, having someone work on thanksgiving was unheard of, unless you simply didn't celebrate it, like the Chinese folk in "A Christmas Story".
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    if the replacements cannot get to their place of employment because of the picket line, i imagine that might force the employer to come to the negotiating table
    That would be a police matter.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    I agree 100%, except your first line. It IS about holidays. Used to be, having someone work on thanksgiving was unheard of, unless you simply didn't celebrate it, like the Chinese folk in "A Christmas Story".
    Yes this time. Next time it will be something else. That was my point and we all know there will be a next time.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Another story.

    When I had my own business I was invited to one of my employees house for a party.

    As I was sitting on the couch, the men of the family sat around the dining room table drinking beer and complaining about their bosses. Do I need to mention they were Mexican?

    That is when I realized the difference between and employee and an employer. An employer can be an employee but an employee can never be an employer. The mindset is hugely different and it would just never work.

    Employees do not know the work it takes to open a business and are not willing to put in that work to make a business successful.

    They complain all day long, leave at 5 and collect their paycheck (welfare) at the end of the day while the owner works until 8 or 9 every night and takes home nothing, at least for the first couple years of a new business.

    Employees will never understand that part of a business.
    Some do. You promote them, let them run the company, and "retire".
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    if the replacements cannot get to their place of employment because of the picket line, i imagine that might force the employer to come to the negotiating table
    And how, pray tell, does one legally stop someone from going where they want?
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Some do. You promote them, let them run the company, and "retire".
    Management is not ownership. They are still employees and ultimately do not have the responsibility for anything. It all rests with the owners.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Management is not ownership. They are still employees and ultimately do not have the responsibility for anything. It all rests with the owners.
    That's why I put retire in quotations.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    And how, pray tell, does one legally stop someone from going where they want?
    you cannot legally do that.

    but you can use the media attention that a public strike would cause as leverage to bring the employer to the negotiating table.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    you cannot legally do that.

    but you can use the media attention that a public strike would cause as leverage to bring the employer to the negotiating table.
    So financial terrorism.

    Any business owner that would bow to media pressure, should just close the doors now.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    you cannot legally do that.

    but you can use the media attention that a public strike would cause as leverage to bring the employer to the negotiating table.
    That you certainly can, what the employees of whole foods tried to do.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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