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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    That's not what he said. He said my rules or you walk. That gives no room for negotiation.
    Why would you use the Word negotiation?

    The employees have nothing to negotiate with. They are employees.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Why would you use the Word negotiation?

    The employees have nothing to negotiate with. They are employees.
    they can go on strike and picket their employers place of business.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Wow. First off, it was you and your wife who chose careers in retail. I have no clue what BJ's is nor why I should care if they are open Christmas or not. However, most of the grocery stores around here have been open for at least a part of Christmas Day for decades now. I find it very hard to swallow that you've worked retail for years and not been asked to work a holiday shift. The possibility of working holidays in retail has always been a part of the job.

    Now generally, the places I've worked and seen will ask for volunteers first and that generally takes care of it so the family folks who really, really don't want to work holidays don't have to. But if you're raising a kid on your own as I was, the time and a half was a welcome thing. Not to mention, even if you're not in a traditionally tip field, people tip on Christmas, big time.

    And stow the nonsense about working your way up the ladder. Most of us from my generation have done that, more than once.

    If you don't want to ever work a holiday and you're in retail, you do indeed need to change your career, or wise up and change your head.
    Chose retail, lol? Hardly. My wife worked retail while getting her BFA, and I turned to retail after saying goodbye to food service. I was a restaurant GM for 8 years before turning to retail. The recession brought that on. The place I ran got to hurting for business, and the owner closed the doors. To be honest, I was tired of restaurant management by that time anyway. My wife never got a job in her major, and retail paid her loans.

    BJs is a wholesale club, like Costco or Sams. A grocer. And while many grocers are open on the holidays, it's half days. But those are next on the chopping block. And the reason it's an issue is because, frankly, these jobs are gonna be all that's left in this country.

    Only the pee ons have to work the holidays in retail. I am no longer a pee on. I make my argue meant for future generations, because I am concerned about more than just myself. Something people from YOUR generation failed epically at, if your over 40.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    The right to collective bargain is legal so no... You can't simply say go somewhere else if your employees want to negotiate.
    You are so funny.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    How can you hope to open a business when you have the employee mentality?

    You will fail 100% for sure if you let your employees tell you how to run your business, which you have posted 517 times in this thread that that is what you think is right.
    Or, I could just give them two ****ing days off a year so they won't get pissed off and form a union.

    Back to work, Cratchit.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Yeah, your right. No one has the will to force people to leave because they have plans to travel for Thanksgiving and the employer decides at the last minute he needs that guy to work because someone else got fired or got sick.
    Are you saying Whole Foods told their employees the day before Thanksgiving they had to work?

    Can you post a link that says that please?

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Why would you use the Word negotiation?

    The employees have nothing to negotiate with. They are employees.
    If they are valuable to the company they have plenty to negotiate with. The employer has a financial choice to make when employees strike. Are the costs of hiring and training new help all while losing sales in the process greater or lesser than the demands being made by those employees. If it's less, fire them all, start over. If not, time to haggle.

    It should be that simple.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Are you saying Whole Foods told their employees the day before Thanksgiving they had to work?

    Can you post a link that says that please?
    No way. I would be shocked if it's not policy to have schedules posted two weeks out, and more shocked if they didn't tell at least the GM much sooner than that.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    They can be fired for any reasons I can find. IOW, they've just lit the fuse on their termination papers. Let's say that their margin of error starts at 9/10, meaning I'm giving them as much latitude as possible and they would have to either murder a coworker or lie to me/steal from the company to be terminated. The second they try to unionize their margin of error drops to 0, they miss a dust bunny during cleanup and their ass is gone. I will do that until the entire offending crew is out of there, if I can't accomplish that, I'll fulfill the last orders and shut it down to write off for a loss and they can start all over again. I would be damned if my employees are going to take over my place.
    If an employee does not want to be there, which is evidenced by the strike, then they should be immediately fired.

    They will never do a good job for the employee and as a matter of fact can do a huge amount of damage to the company, so they must go.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    Dont be silly, the policy is enforceable and the employees can see that it is. THey can do a number of things, including make anonymous calls to regulating agencies and videoing unsafe practices or conditions.

    ANYONE, can break rules or laws, including employees. This does not mean that they do not have those rights, which is exactly what you wrote.
    That is why you must remove a dangerous employee right away.

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