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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    You dont have a right to force your will on people. If he doesnt want to negotiate, he doesnt have to.
    Yeah, your right. No one has the will to force people to leave because they have plans to travel for Thanksgiving and the employer decides at the last minute he needs that guy to work because someone else got fired or got sick.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Yeah, your right. No one has the will to force people to leave because they have plans to travel for Thanksgiving and the employer decides at the last minute he needs that guy to work because someone else got fired or got sick.
    He can fire them for that, and they can find another job.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    If it is his business, he should be allowed to hire and fire whoever he wants. Period. If he doesnt want to negotiate, he doesnt have to.
    No, at will does not have to apply. That leaves the door open for an employee being able to get fired for anything.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    The right to collective bargain is legal so no... You can't simply say go somewhere else if your employees want to negotiate.
    Not in a right to work state. You are an at will employee in a right to work state, and there are plenty of other reasons to fire someone who wants to bitch and complain about the work environment.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Then say goodbye to holidays. If employers think they can make money Christmas Day, they are going to require their hires to work Christmas Day. If you accept that retail is the fastest growing employer in the American job market, and already the largest sector currently, then you must logically accept an "end of an era" in terms of the old standard. A lowering of the quality of life, no more stories of mom and dad sitting together at thanksgiving, enjoying an uninterrupted day with whole family.
    No, there isn't any logic there. The reality is it's already been the case for decades that some retail folks work Thanksgiiving and even Christmas day. It's not an end of the era, and holidays still persist. When you go to work at a grocery store, generally you get seven holidays a year. Believe it or not, not everyone celebrates Thanksgiving or even Christmas. And there's always folks that want to work and get the time and a half. I've done it.

    It isn't retail and the fact that they've been open for holidays for years and years that is interfering with uninterrupted family gatherings - it's that damn smart phone and these computers that have done that.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    He can fire them for that, and they can find another job.
    Yeah, the whole point is that is shi*ty.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Yeah, the whole point is that is shi*ty.
    And if a job is ****ty, you can go work another one. Its called freedom.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    No, at will does not have to apply. That leaves the door open for an employee being able to get fired for anything.
    You arent entitled to another persons business in any way.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    Not in a right to work state. You are an at will employee in a right to work state, and there are plenty of other reasons to fire someone who wants to bitch and complain about the work environment.
    Yes, in a right to work state. That does not mean you are "at will" if you want to collectively bargain.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by lawboy View Post
    Not for trying to Unionize, ever hear of the National Labor Relations Act?
    They can be fired for any reasons I can find. IOW, they've just lit the fuse on their termination papers. Let's say that their margin of error starts at 9/10, meaning I'm giving them as much latitude as possible and they would have to either murder a coworker or lie to me/steal from the company to be terminated. The second they try to unionize their margin of error drops to 0, they miss a dust bunny during cleanup and their ass is gone. I will do that until the entire offending crew is out of there, if I can't accomplish that, I'll fulfill the last orders and shut it down to write off for a loss and they can start all over again. I would be damned if my employees are going to take over my place.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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