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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Only if there is an imbalance of power in that company. If those people had a contract which stated that, it wouldn't be an issue.
    Two things;
    1) The balance of power in a company is the person who signs the paycheck has the power.
    2) I've never seen "guaranteed hours of operation" on a contract. In fact, hours are always subject to change based upon business needs.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Actually, you can't fire someone for one call out or no show. Most states, it's three.
    The hell you can't. I've seen people fired for being five minutes late.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    An at will employer can fire anyone for anything outside of protected classes, like sex, sexual orientation, or race, so long as the reason given wasn't present at the time of hire. In other words, you can fire an employee for getting their eye brow pierced, but not if they had one when you hired them.
    Unless, there is a stated dress code change which is legal, in writing.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    am i going to have to explain this to every libertarian on the site individually? ok. this is it.

    Thanksgiving and Christmas, as you know, are cultural family holidays. as i've said five hundred and forty two thousand times already in this ****ing thread, if somebody wants to spend the damned ****ing day with his or her family, they should be able to. others who want to work should be able to do that.

    treating workers like **** leads to unions. corporatists hate unions like ten year olds hate brussel sprouts. want to prevent unions? treat your workers like human ****ing beings. it really doesn't take that much.

    ok, i feel better now.
    I'll just put it this way. I'm thinking of getting back into business, putting one of my ideas to work, should an employee tell me "how things are going to be" they will be fired. If my employees threaten or entertain unionization they will be fired. I will entertain opinions and suggestions, but the final decision is mine alone in that instance because I sign the checks.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    They have the right to a federally mandated minimum wage, to work in safe conditions, and other things as described by OSHA, FMLA, FLSA.

    They don't have a right to protest without repercussion.
    "Since the 1930s, under the federal National Labor Relations Act (NLRA), whenever two or more employees complain or protest or demand from their employer changes in the terms of their job and/or the conditions of their employment, their employer cannot retaliate against them for that." Do workers have rights? - Baltimore Sun

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    "Since the 1930s, under the federal National Labor Relations Act (NLRA), whenever two or more employees complain or protest or demand from their employer changes in the terms of their job and/or the conditions of their employment, their employer cannot retaliate against them for that." Do workers have rights? - Baltimore Sun
    There are ways around that, an employee is likely to **** up soon enough, and the scope of forgiveness for mistakes could shrink.
    Neither side in an argument can find the truth when both make an absolute claim on it.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    An employeer cannot depend on if an employee wants to work.

    What if an employee says they wat to work one week before Thanksgiving but they change their mind after being scheduled to work that day. Shoudl that employee be let off that day even if it creates a problema for the business?
    if someone wants to work on thanksgiving, cool. if someone doesn't want to work on thanksgiving, he or she should be able to stay home. in the past 517 pages of this ****ing thread, what have i posted that is even slightly unclear?

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by LaMidRighter View Post
    I'll just put it this way. I'm thinking of getting back into business, putting one of my ideas to work, should an employee tell me "how things are going to be" they will be fired. If my employees threaten or entertain unionization they will be fired. I will entertain opinions and suggestions, but the final decision is mine alone in that instance because I sign the checks.
    well, good luck. i'm hoping to start a business, too, if i do stupid **** that causes my employees to unionize, i'll know that i ****ed up. honestly, on my deathbed, i doubt i'll mourn too much about it either way. hope that your business is successful.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Are you going to make it illegal to work on Christmas too?

    The only alternatives to the invisible hand are pure anarchy or the iron fist of socialism.
    The invisible hand is a fallacy. There is no self regulated behavior of our marketplace.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    well, good luck. i'm hoping to start a business, too, if i do stupid **** that causes my employees to unionize, i'll know that i ****ed up. honestly, on my deathbed, i doubt i'll mourn too much about it either way. hope that your business is successful.
    Thanks man. I've got to be an employee for seed money right now, but we all gotta do what we gotta do.
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