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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    As has been shown, that's just not true. If you are hired at will you can be fired at will. In all states. See the links defining At Will employment and the specific states (a handful) that have certain exemptions.
    You CAN fire an employee for one call out, or most anything else at right to work states, but you'll be bleeding out the nose in unemployment costs. Most organized, large companies won't allow management to fire unless it's done in a way to avoid unemployment. Hence, my "can't" remark.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Employment is never a right.
    Employment may not be a right, however, employees can have rights.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by GottaGo View Post
    Tennessee, it's one no call no show, you're gone. They sign it specifically in the hiring paperwork to acknowledge they know it.
    There are a couple states like that. Most, though, require at least three, before unemployment is no longer an issue. Many large companies adopt the policies of the most strengent states and apply them across all their stores, regardless of state, in order to ensure compliance.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Employment may not be a right, however, employees can have rights.
    There are no such things as rights, only protections that can be removed from you by those more powerful than yourself.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Employment may not be a right, however, employees can have rights.
    They have the right to a federally mandated minimum wage, to work in safe conditions, and other things as described by OSHA, FMLA, FLSA.

    They don't have a right to protest without repercussion.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    They have the right to a federally mandated minimum wage, to work in safe conditions, and other things as described by OSHA, FMLA, FLSA.

    They don't have a right to protest without repercussion.
    Many US workers have none of those rights.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Many US workers have none of those rights.
    Then they should complain. Their employers would get heavily fined.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Then they should complain. Their employers would get heavily fined.
    Not really. They would get fired for not complying with company policy. You see, on one hand, a company has you sign and date documents stating you know and understand OSHA standards and what have you...and then, on the other hand, they cut payrolls and increase work loads which all but force you to cut corners in order to succeed. It's cut those corners, take those risks, or get less done. One of those two the employer is willing to "not see". The other...not so much. Care to venture a guess which is which? And then, should call OSHA or whoever and complain, we pull up our signed and dated documents, and ask who told them to cut corners. And then term them. I've seen it happen a couple of times now, at more than one job.
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    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Not really. They would get fired for not complying with company policy. You see, on one hand, a company has you sign and date documents stating you know and understand OSHA standards and what have you...and then, on the other hand, they cut payrolls and increase work loads which all but force you to cut corners in order to succeed. It's cut those corners, take those risks, or get less done. One of those two the employer is willing to "not see". The other...not so much. Care to venture a guess which is which? And then, should call OSHA or whoever and complain, we pull up our signed and dated documents, and ask who told them to cut corners. And then term them. I've seen it happen a couple of times now, at more than one job.
    That's...just wrong. I'd be getting hidden cameras and stuff.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Where the hell else am I gonna get my turkey?
    You could always go shopping before Thanksgiving Day. Stores are open for weeks ahead of time.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.

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