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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    It's someone's right to protest having to work on a Holiday if it wasn't agreed to in advanced.
    Know what your rights are? Your right is to ask for the day off. And your right is to quit. Just quit. "You can't open your store!!! I'm going to block your entrance to make you!!" That's NOT a right.

    Just quit, damn it.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    Agreed. And it is the company's right to fire them if they dont show up for work.
    Only if there is an imbalance of power in that company. If those people had a contract which stated that, it wouldn't be an issue.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    All full time retail workers are required to accept open availability as a requirement of full time status. In addition, most if not all retail workers are told right up front during orientation that holidays are black out dates, meaning, no vacation or day off requests will be accepted.




    Retail is now the largest job sector in the US. So many of you suggest that if you don't like it, don't do it. Can't wait till you have kids or grand kids, and they come work for me, or company shills like me. Then you can talk your talk. Workers rights? No problem. We just ship those jobs out.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    Know what your rights are? Your right is to ask for the day off. And your right is to quit. Just quit. "You can't open your store!!! I'm going to block your entrance to make you!!" That's NOT a right.

    Just quit, damn it.
    If they block the entrance, they can be removed from the store's property.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    Agreed. And it is the company's right to fire them if they dont show up for work.
    Actually, you can't fire someone for one call out or no show. Most states, it's three.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Actually, you can't fire someone for one call out or no show. Most states, it's three.
    As has been shown, that's just not true. If you are hired at will you can be fired at will. In all states. See the links defining At Will employment and the specific states (a handful) that have certain exemptions.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    Actually, you can't fire someone for one call out or no show. Most states, it's three.
    Tennessee, it's one no call no show, you're gone. They sign it specifically in the hiring paperwork to acknowledge they know it.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    You're totally confused about the meaning of at will employment in the US.

    It's simply an arrangement where both employer and employee can cease employment at any time without cause. That's it.

    It doesn't permit the employers to falsify the reason for termination. If an employer does, he/she will be face a lawsuit.
    I posted the definition, what part of that definition confuses you? Employers lying about termination is an entirely different subject having no bearing whatsoever on At Will employment. In fact there are only two places where the employer could lie about termination that would be legally actionable - at the unemployment board hearing (it's a court of law and all any perjurous statement is potentially actionable) AND when giving references. That is why, again, HR personnel are trained to not disclose that info. From and to dates of employment is all they are supposed to give out. With At Will employment, Boards don't care if you quit or were fired, because those are largely meaningless values in At Will employment as per basic contract law. What they do care about is what the state allows as to At Will employment law. Some states allow unemployment for At Will workers under certain state defined conditions. Some do not.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    An at will employer can fire anyone for anything outside of protected classes, like sex, sexual orientation, or race, so long as the reason given wasn't present at the time of hire. In other words, you can fire an employee for getting their eye brow pierced, but not if they had one when you hired them.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I would only agree to this IF those employees agree they are willing to work the holiday. One's person's rights should not trump another.
    Employment is never a right.

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