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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    The "at will" arrangement doesn't absolve an employer from employment termination suits. Any employer that fired an employee for calling in sick, and then later claimed, without documentation, that the employee quit, while the employee could prove the sick call, can be sued.
    Keep repeating the same debunked information won't make it any more true. I sourced where you are wrong. But at heart you are making a statement about employment law that is not applicable equally to all states. Some states have exemptions to At Will employment, conditions. Some do not.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Keep repeating the same debunked information won't make it any more true. I sourced where you are wrong.
    Nope, you didn't. Cite where it states that an employer can lie about the reason for termination to references and be legally liable for it.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    what side would that be? Explain. FYI, she's a lawyer, you're not.
    Yes, and she included no legal position in her article. She's a lawyer that represents people who were fired/quit with the goal of getting them relief. It's a fluff piece. In reality she knows that emplyment law varies from state to state, and in some states county to county. You seem to believe that labor law is homogenous throughout the US. This is not the case.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Yes, and she included no legal position in her article. She's a lawyer that represents people who were fired/quit with the goal of getting them relief.
    Where does it say that? Cite.

    Has it occurred to you that employers would also seek her advice in an effort to be immune to employee lawsuits? ?

    Next time you post, think.

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    It's a fluff piece.
    Nope, it's a citation from an authoritative source (an employment lawyer). Fluff is the stuff you made up and posted.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Nope, you didn't. Cite where it states that an employer can lie about the reason for termination to references and be legally liable for it.
    Explain the bolded part, what the hell does that mean? Are you trying to move the goal posts here? The law on what can and what cannot be given in reference also varies from state to state and nationally. Best practices that any competent HR person can attest is to NEVER give references. HR folks are taught to give out only the work to and from dates of employment and to refuse to give any other details. But it is entirely a separate matter from the conditions of employment.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Where does it say that? Cite.

    Has it occurred to you that employers would also seek her advice in an effort to be immune to employee lawsuits? ?

    Next time you post, think.
    YOU just posted her CV. Try reading what you post first.

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Nope, it's a citation from an authoritative source (an employment lawyer). Fluff is the stuff you made up and posted.
    Perhaps you should educate youirself as to what an employment lawyer does and the difference between citing law and fluff.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Explain the bolded part, what the hell does that mean?
    You're totally confused about the meaning of at will employment in the US.

    It's simply an arrangement where both employer and employee can cease employment at any time without cause. That's it.

    It doesn't permit the employers to falsify the reason for termination. If an employer does, he/she will be face a lawsuit.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I would only agree to this IF those employees agree they are willing to work the holiday. One's person's rights should not trump another.
    What rights are you talking about?

    Is it somebodys right to not work when their boss tells them they are scheduled to work? Is that a right?

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    What rights are you talking about?

    Is it somebodys right to not work when their boss tells them they are scheduled to work? Is that a right?
    It's someone's right to protest having to work on a Holiday if it wasn't agreed to in advanced.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    It's someone's right to protest having to work on a Holiday if it wasn't agreed to in advanced.
    Agreed. And it is the company's right to fire them if they dont show up for work.

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