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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper
    No, my post shows that there is infinite demand for low-wage, unskilled, uneducated jobs.
    That's odd. Your post shows that? As in, your post is a study about the matter, complete with empirically-gathered evidence to support your conclusion? It seems to me that your post expresses an opinion about the matter, and one that is subtly at odds with how conservatives usually like to portray themselves. You cannot on the one hand claim to support market economics, and on the other think there's some ethical imperative that Whole Foods should fire these employees.

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    These guys quit and get fired, and they're replaced before the sun sets.
    Perhaps so. I'm not sure why that's relevant to the point at hand.

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    You don't bluff the chip leader of the table when you're holding crappy hole cards. You're one call away from losing it all.
    Again, I'm not sure why this is remotely relevant. I'm calling out the fact that you call yourself libertarian, which rather strongly suggests you support market economics. But on the other hand, you seem to believe there is some prior ought here--an ought based on some principle or other. One point behind market economics is that it's procedurally determined. Whatever the outcome of the procedure is, that's what should happen.

    Of course, we don't have that. I also don't believe that's correct. But if you're a libertarian, you should believe that--that seems to be one way to state a definition of libertarianism.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

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    I find your remarks revolting. I don't consider people who work retail as bottom of the barrel.
    I was just using your words. Go back and review what *YOU* said.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    You are why the US is such a **** hole when it comes to work.

    You think it is OK to scam your boss for your own purposes and you could give a **** about the health of the business.
    It's called at will employment. And it's 100% legal, even if a lie is offered.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Nice try. They can refuse to work if they want. They can also be fired.

    Also there's a difference between not working for wages you cannot live on, and this.

    That seems to be the ultra-liberal mantra - "they can do this and do that". Yes they can. And they can also be fired.
    We have to keep in mind what kind of business this is.

    If this was a lawyers office I could see an uproar, but this store sells food, supposedly healthy food, and it is very important for it to be open on Thanksgiving to sell that food.

    Thanksgiving is a holiday that revolves around food so it would be professional suicide to be closed on that day.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    We have to keep in mind what kind of business this is.

    If this was a lawyers office I could see an uproar, but this store sells food, supposedly healthy food, and it is very important for it to be open on Thanksgiving to sell that food.

    Thanksgiving is a holiday that revolves around food so it would be professional suicide to be closed on that day.
    Yeah, there are many jobs where not working seems almost logical. Grocery is not one.

    Can you imagine if nurses did this? My God, the outrage.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    I was just using your words. Go back and review what *YOU* said.
    Those were not my words. Those were your words I quoted and gave you an eye roll. Please don't attribute your words to me.
    Last edited by rabbitcaebannog; 11-29-13 at 04:10 PM.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    It's called at will employment. And it's 100% legal, even if a lie is offered.
    But you support untrustworthy employees.

    If they are going to lie about why they can't come to work, and the boss will know the next day when they come back, then as a business owner I have to assume that they are also going to steal from me.

    Dishonesty cannot be accepted on any level.

    I hope no employees take your advice to get what they want.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The fact that you're trying to show 6 posts over a 2 hour span as proof that I didn't spend time with my family. Now follow me closely. You showed 6 posts, first one made at 12, the last at 2:20 as proof that I didn't spend time with my family. That's dishonest.



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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    Some people don't have families or are so far away that they can't get there, so what are those people supposed to do on Thanksgiving?
    LOLOLOLOL

    That's a discussion point?

    People dont have family available so they'd prefer to work all day?

    Not to mention that there are plenty of alternatives, including friends, enjoying the outdoors (as a park ranger who KNEW that working holidays was part of the job, I can tell you that there are plenty of things to do and visit), watching movies and relaxing at home...inviting friends to YOUR home, etc etc etc.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Yeah, there are many jobs where not working seems almost logical. Grocery is not one.

    Can you imagine if nurses did this? My God, the outrage.
    I am not sure there would be anything said other than what that would do to the patients. Nurses are not in any kind of protected class.

    Unskilled workers seem to be the cause of the month, so there is outrage that some people have to work on Thanksgiving in a business that told them they would have to work on Thanksgiving when they were hired.

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