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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    I'm dishonest? Where'd you get that from?
    The fact that you're trying to show 6 posts over a 2 hour span as proof that I didn't spend time with my family. Now follow me closely. You showed 6 posts, first one made at 12, the last at 2:20 as proof that I didn't spend time with my family. That's dishonest.

    As I said, if you can prove I left the house yesterday other than going to the neighbor's, you feel free to do so. I'm not making anything up about you. It's not my fault you didn't live up to your own judgments of others.
    Did Izods have a sale yesterday?
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    The fact that you're trying to show 6 posts over a 2 hour span as proof that I didn't spend time with my family. Now follow me closely. You showed 6 posts, first one made at 12, the last at 2:20 as proof that I didn't spend time with my family. That's dishonest.
    No, it's you spending time with strangers for a couple of hours, instead of with family. According to you, that's bad.

    And as for "dishonesty," where did you get those "first post" and "last post" times for me? Hmmmmm? I note you couldn't find any actual posts I made yesterday, as I didn't make any.


    Did Izods have a sale yesterday?
    Wouldn't know. I didn't stop spending time any with family and friends yesterday. I guarantee you these sad attempts at trolling are coming off as pretty pathetic to whomever is following this, if indeed anyone is.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No, it's you spending time with strangers for a couple of hours, instead of with family.
    Nonsense as I didn't even leave the house. Unlike you. Quit trying to be dishonest. It's making you look silly.

    Wouldn't know. I didn't stop spending time any with family and friends yesterday. I guarantee you these sad attempts at trolling are coming off as pretty pathetic to whomever is following this, if indeed anyone is.
    You seem to have taken it personally for somebody who left the house for the movies. Which movie did you go watch?
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper
    Don't wanna work holidays? Don't work retail or service.

    F'n wage-scrubs.
    Hmmm...I wonder if we could substitute other terms into this general framework. Let's go back to the early 20th century, when someone might have said "don't wanna work for 10 cents a day and die by the time you're 30? Don't work in textile mills...F'n wage-scrubs." Obviously not the same in terms of moral weight, but the principle is the same. Labor should be able to organize and strike if they don't like a deal. If employers can't find people to work under those conditions, they have to concede the point. That's an integral part of how market economics works. I really thought conservatives support market economics...

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    Nonsense as I didn't even leave the house. Quit trying to be dishonest. It's making you look silly.
    No, you ignored your family, in favor of arguing with strangers, while they were there with you. That's worse than leaving the house WITH your family, by your own measure.


    You seem to have taken it personally. Which movie did you go watch?
    Why would I take anything a self-acknowledged troll who enjoys attempting to get rises out of people says "personally"? I know what I did yesterday; you don't. You're flailing, and you're losing. That's all that's going on here.

    Tell you what -- you come up with the best zinger you can in response to this -- make it a truly volcanic burn -- and I'll just let it go unacknowledged so you can tell everyone I had no response to it. You have a great day.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    Hmmm...I wonder if we could substitute other terms into this general framework. Let's go back to the early 20th century, when someone might have said "don't wanna work for 10 cents a day and die by the time you're 30? Don't work in textile mills...F'n wage-scrubs." Obviously not the same in terms of moral weight, but the principle is the same. Labor should be able to organize and strike if they don't like a deal. If employers can't find people to work under those conditions, they have to concede the point. That's an integral part of how market economics works. I really thought conservatives support market economics...
    Nice try. They can refuse to work if they want. They can also be fired.

    Also there's a difference between not working for wages you cannot live on, and this.

    That seems to be the ultra-liberal mantra - "they can do this and do that". Yes they can. And they can also be fired.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No, you ignored your family while they were there with you.
    You're still trying to avoid your dishonesty. This is the 3rd post you do this. It seems to be a pattern.

    Why would I take anything a self-acknowledged troll who enjoys attempting to get rises out of people says "personally"?
    4th post where you ad-hom because you can't seem to accept that going on a shopping spree and spending money is not family time. How was the movie?
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper
    Nice try. They can refuse to work if they want. They can also be fired.

    Also there's a difference between not working for wages you cannot live on, and this.

    That seems to be the ultra-liberal mantra - "they can do this and do that". Yes they can. And they can also be fired.
    I don't dispute that. What I take issue with is your assertion that they should be fired. If you actually do support market economics, there is no prior should about it. If they get fired, and WF finds others to fill their slots, then that's what should happen. But if enough workers do this and employers cannot hire anyone who won't, then that's what should happen, from the perspective of someone who actually does support market economics. What I think your posts actually show is that you support some kind of economic authoritarianism. I suspect that this is more common among some conservatives than their public image would allow. It goes along with the motive behind conservatism to some extent; economic authoritarianism is a veritable tradition in Western culture that was only recently challenged.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by ashurbanipal View Post
    I don't dispute that. What I take issue with is your assertion that they should be fired. If you actually do support market economics, there is no prior should about it. If they get fired, and WF finds others to fill their slots, then that's what should happen. But if enough workers do this and employers cannot hire anyone who won't, then that's what should happen, from the perspective of someone who actually does support market economics. What I think your posts actually show is that you support some kind of economic authoritarianism.
    No, my post shows that there is infinite demand for low-wage, unskilled, uneducated jobs. These guys quit and get fired, and they're replaced before the sun sets.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

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