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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    I still have my choice. And I choose not to shop retail or at all if possible, on those holidays.

    Oh well, powdered creamer tomorrow am.
    I don't participate either, I don't need anything badly enough to put up with rude shoppers who will knife a person to save 5$.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Oh, I see the "bottom of the barrel" argument. They don't deserve time with their family because they are bottom of the barrel.
    Everyone starts at the bottom of the barrel. Everyone needs to climb their way out of it. Why should we feel sorry for people too stupid or lazy to do so?
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Correct, they have the right to quit. They also have the right to not show up whenever they feel like.

    They are also not required to quit if they choose not to show up.
    Yes, but their employers have the right to fire them for not showing up, which is the same as quitting except they're now not eligible for unemployment.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Henrin View Post
    Ah..so basically someone hurt your feelings. Your story is not a very interesting one, imho.
    no, i've not been fired from a job for refusing to work Thanksgiving. but my story isn't interesting? you cut me to the quick. maybe you aren't asking the right questions; i have a whole backpack full of interesting stories.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Peter Grimm View Post
    Where the hell else am I gonna get my turkey?
    Wednesday, perhaps? do you buy your turkey on Thanksgiving?

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by notquiteright View Post
    If you see a tinge of anything i suggest you re-read your own posts. This isn't about a pizza hut pizza, back when I was a kid you knew almost every retail place would be closed on Thanksgiving so you bought something to eat for that day as most all retail eateries would be closed. I don't see where there is a big call for pizzas on Thanksgiving, and doubt any store makes a profit that day.

    Funny you use the poor pay many folks get to justify staying open on Thanksgiving. I do know people who work several jobs, they manage to shop and even attend their kid's activities, you are just tossing crap against the wall for in your world it sticks.

    Odd you want to pander to those who can't plan ahead for one big meal a year... you are waaay too sensitive considering your opinion on personal responsibility in other areas of life. The 7Ps= proper prior planning prevents piss poor performance. most of these stores are not putting more money in the economy through paychecks thus cutting the amount of government money given to the low wage earners- these stores juggle hours to make sure they don't spend more. Obviously you have not been in a Walmart when the lines are long and there are not enough checkers because Walmart knows we will wait in line so no need to have more employees on duty.

    I am not being unkind about retail workers- obviously you have not read many CON posts on this. I could never be as snarky as they. No Sir, I am not dismissive, but rather waiting for the day the 'gotta work the holiday' climbs up the payscale and those sitting at home snickering at the retail workers- the CONs are quick to say- if you don't like retail go elsewhere- go on unemployment and so forth.
    Just more judgementalism.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by solletica View Post
    Correct, they have the right to quit. They also have the right to not show up whenever they feel like.

    They are also not required to quit if they choose not to show up.
    Utter nonsense. In what fantasy world do employees get to decide if and when they'll show up for work and remain employees?
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by rocket88 View Post
    They're not my words, they're from the OP. That's what I object to most of all is the idea that because they actually work for a living, they're below contempt. Typical of the conservatives in this country who claim to be all about "traditional values," God, and the working man.

    Why don't we just make them work on Christmas too? After all, the Liberals took the "Christ" out of it right? No need to observe a religious holiday, and if you complain you're a "f'n wage scrub" to use the words of the OP. You think your "entitled" to things like holidays. Just don't say "Happy Holidays" instead of "Merry Christmas" because you're trying to take religion out of the public sphere.
    Fair enough - not your words. You repeated them to me, but I accept that.

    My simple point is quite clear - if you accept a job with any employer, you accept the hours of operation of that employer and the rules of that operation. If one of those rules is that the establishment is open on holidays and you may be sceduled to work on a holiday, you suck it up and work on that holiday because that's your responsibility. You freely accepted that employment opportunity and your employer trusted your word and your integrity and expected you'd honor your commitment to your job.

    If you can't live by the rules of the job, don't take the job, look for another one. Personally, I absolutely detest people who make commitments to do something and then when they don't feel like doing it they bitch and moan to have the commitments change. You see it everyday in professional sports where an athlete signs a contract and then the next guy signs a better deal and the first guy starts moaning he's underpaid. People bought houses with no income and no assets and when the ponzi market crashed they were all innocent victims and needed to be saved. It happens daily, hourly, every second - some whiny ass wimp is complaining about having to honor a commitment they freely made - makes me sick.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Let me get this straight. They were upset at being asked to work on Thanksgiving and miss the holiday with their families, so they decided to go protest in front of the store on Thanksgiving and miss the holiday with their families. Good plan.

    It sucks that some people have to work on thanksgiving, but it's not just retail. And generally if you have one of the kinds of jobs where that's a possibility, you knew it was going in.

    The stores could end a lot of the bitching if they'd just organize things a little better. If they need people to work on Thanksgiving, have shifts end/begin at like 3 in the afternoon, so even the people that have to work can enjoy thanksgiving with their families, either at lunchtime or suppertime.
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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Everyone starts at the bottom of the barrel. Everyone needs to climb their way out of it. Why should we feel sorry for people too stupid or lazy to do so?
    I find your remarks revolting. I don't consider people who work retail as bottom of the barrel.

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