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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    Hey, I don't work nights, weekends or holidays and neither does my wife. Of course, we are both educated professionals who have put in our time working our way up, unlike these people who are bottom of the barrel. It can be done, it just takes work, not just a bunch of liberal whining about how unfair things are.
    Oh, I see the "bottom of the barrel" argument. They don't deserve time with their family because they are bottom of the barrel.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Deuce View Post
    How dare people dislike something and then act to change a thing they dislike. That's messed up, man.
    They knew that was part of the job when they took it.

    Now they are complaining about it.

    How can they think they DESERVE anything?

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    I don't agree that it's strikeworthy, but they shouldn't be forced to work Thanksgiving.
    What about people that don't celebrate Thanksgiving and that need to shop today?

    Should every retail business be closed?

    If you forgot to buy something yesterday for your Thanksgiving dinner, should all retail stores be closed? Where would you get what you need to complete your dinner?

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Comparing emergency workers to retail doesn't work.

    My whole point about values is, if people are fine with other people working on holidays like Christmas and Thanksgiving for the sake of convenience, then put your values where your mouth is and be willing to work too. I've a feeling people would change their tune if their own place of business sacrifices holiday for profits. I would ask them why anyone should get the day off at all?
    I agree. Hence my point that if people didn't shop on major holiday days, then the stores would not be open.

    IMO, most of the holidays in the US have lost its true meaning. Many people see it as a day off and could care less the reason.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    There's a certain tinge of judgementalism in your post. That's not me - I'm the type of conservative that isn't interested in or doesn't judge you and your personal tastes or likes/dislikes. Who am I to say that someone who lives alone and can't afford or need a big turkey dinner can't enjoy him/herself and order from or go to Pizza Hut? Likewise, who am I to say someone who likes shopping on their day off shouldn't be able to go shopping if they choose? One of the main rationales for stores being open 24/7 and on holidays is because many in society these days work two or three jobs and it's hard for them to get to a store during regular store hours. Likewise, if someone forgets that can of corn and the family loves canned corn with their turkey dinner, who am I to disappoint the little ones and not let mom or dad run out and get that precious corn. Bottom line, there are 11 million people in the US looking for work and unemployed and there are at least that many who've given up trying to find work because there's just not any out there. If opening up some stores on a holiday gives more people employment, thus more money to spend, thus less government money needed to support them, and make them feel like they're contributing, who am I to say that's wrong. Finally, not once have I "snickered at the retail low end workers" - that's on you. I honor all forms of work. Isn't it funny that you're the second person who's complained about my views and supposedly been supportive of those working on holidays who's found a need to be dismissive and unkind when describing retail workers?
    If you see a tinge of anything i suggest you re-read your own posts. This isn't about a pizza hut pizza, back when I was a kid you knew almost every retail place would be closed on Thanksgiving so you bought something to eat for that day as most all retail eateries would be closed. I don't see where there is a big call for pizzas on Thanksgiving, and doubt any store makes a profit that day.

    Funny you use the poor pay many folks get to justify staying open on Thanksgiving. I do know people who work several jobs, they manage to shop and even attend their kid's activities, you are just tossing crap against the wall for in your world it sticks.

    Odd you want to pander to those who can't plan ahead for one big meal a year... you are waaay too sensitive considering your opinion on personal responsibility in other areas of life. The 7Ps= proper prior planning prevents piss poor performance. most of these stores are not putting more money in the economy through paychecks thus cutting the amount of government money given to the low wage earners- these stores juggle hours to make sure they don't spend more. Obviously you have not been in a Walmart when the lines are long and there are not enough checkers because Walmart knows we will wait in line so no need to have more employees on duty.

    I am not being unkind about retail workers- obviously you have not read many CON posts on this. I could never be as snarky as they. No Sir, I am not dismissive, but rather waiting for the day the 'gotta work the holiday' climbs up the payscale and those sitting at home snickering at the retail workers- the CONs are quick to say- if you don't like retail go elsewhere- go on unemployment and so forth.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Cephus View Post
    It's not a fairy tale, they have the right to find any job that will pay them for their skills. Sorry if you don't understand that. Enjoy your fantasy world.
    the fairy tale is that the average worker can just write off entire industries that might force them to work Thanksgiving because people can't wait one day to buy **** that they don't need.

    however, there's a side benefit : retail is ripe for unionisation, and stuff like this will make it happen more quickly.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Mason66 View Post
    What about people that don't celebrate Thanksgiving and that need to shop today?

    Should every retail business be closed?

    If you forgot to buy something yesterday for your Thanksgiving dinner, should all retail stores be closed? Where would you get what you need to complete your dinner?
    people who want to work Thanksgiving should be able to. people who don't want to shouldn't be forced. i'm happy with that compromise.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Whole Foods Employees Strike Against Working on Thanksgiving



    Don't wanna work holidays? Don't work retail or service.
    Er, false. Employment at whole foods, pizza hutt, etc. at at will, meaning there is no legal contract/law that requires employees to show up.

    They are free to not work if they choose not to, and likewise, the employer is free to fire them. Of course, rush limbaugh might have told you that it is illegal to for employees to not show up to work, but that's not true.

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    F'n wage-scrubs.
    A wage scrub is someone who prefers to suck corporate America's cock at the expense of his/her own dignity. Of course, the right to suck corporate America's cock is also guaranteed in a free market. If it weren't, there would be no GOP pols in Congress.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    people who want to work Thanksgiving should be able to. people who don't want to shouldn't be forced. i'm happy with that compromise.
    True, but I suspect rush may be telling his flock that those refusing to work on Thanksgiving in defiance of their employer's wishes are breaking the law.

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    Re: Whole Foods employees striking over requirements to work Thanksgiving

    Quote Originally Posted by Helix View Post
    people who want to work Thanksgiving should be able to. people who don't want to shouldn't be forced. i'm happy with that compromise.
    There should be no compromise. Employers who want their employees to show up to work on Thanksgiving (or Christmas or Winter Solstice, or whatever) should be able to force them.

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