No one is requiring participation only the opportunity of participation. It is not the same. In any case, why deny and disparage Individual Liberty to your fellow, secular and temporal citizens in the several States who also have a 1st Amendment.
It was their CHOICE and we all must play by the same rules, not have special rule for some.
If Hobby Lobby was a "CHURCH" id support them 100% but they are not so they must play by the same rules as everybody else its that simple
2.) again the business owner didnt have any rights removed he chose to open up a business
the "negative affect" argument is meaningless as its subjective, who gets to decided that? its better if we just all play by the same rules and not make special rules for hobby lobby otherwise whats next? wheres the list of religious believes that can and can not be forced on others?
No thanks, same rules for everybody since this is the public realm and its a public business.
One thing needs to be made clear: Justice Scalia got it wrong when he said in his ruling statement in support of Citizens United that free speech was not limited to people. It IS! The Preamble makes it clear that our founging document was intended to protect the rights of "We, the People" against government. Nowhere does it say "protect the rights of corporations, unions, associations or organizations whether for-profit or non-profit. What the Right-Wing activist justices did was make a ruling on both ideological and economic grounds.
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in the end cooperation are not people
but i see what direction you took it
you are saying they do have "special rights" already because of how the law doesnt punish them like they would you and me and i agree
my special rights i was referring to were along the lines of discrimination and religious freedom, i should have been more specific.
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2001-2008: Dissent is the highest form of patriotism.
2009-2016: Dissent is the highest form of racism.
2017-? (Probably): Dissent is the highest form of misogyny.