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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Presuming they can find a place that will rent to more than one
    Is that typically a problem? I've never heard of it being, but then, though I've rented in many different cities, I've never rented in SoCal. I would be floored if it's really hard to do.

    I do know tons of people in LA with roommates, though.


    and they have rented enough money to have an adequate credit score.
    They aren't going to get an apartment by themselves if they don't, so it's a moot point.
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    Which is why minimum wage was meant for teenagers so they can afford XBox. If your argument is that minimum wage should be high enough that a McDonald's cashier can afford to live alone in San Diego then I would like to give you a lesson in supply and demand.

    In N Out Burger pays well over minimum wage to start and provides benefits, so it CAN be done profitably.
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Bodhisattva View Post
    No. Their interpretation of the Constitution. That is the point. You are indicating that their ruling is accurate. I pointed out that this is not always so. That's what.
    Well, I disagree. I think your interpretation is wrong.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    I found this opinion piece by Harold Meyerson to be spot on concerning corporations being brought in to the world of personhood.

    Is it alright for corporations to speak for their employees on all matters as a collective? I don't think so.

    Also consider this: Where does this corporations-are-people business start and stop? Note the excerpt from Meyerson's piece:

    Harold Meyerson makes one think about personhood, don't you think? What about wars? People are drafted and go to wars, why not include corporations? Corporations get to itemize a lot of things on their taxes more than the average Joe or Jane. Why do they get to be a special person with extraordinary fiscal relationships with the state?

    Yes, I think Scalia is looking to see how he is going to open this can of worms -- real carefully.

    My biggest problem with it is it in essence grants foreign nations the power to buy a limited level of instant US citizenship and influence US elections outcomes. Anyone with money can purchase stock in a publicly traded corporation; American, foreigner, friend or foe. Although its illegal to accept campaign contributions from a Middle Eastern Oil Sheik or member of the Communist Party of Cuba, under the present interpretation of the law all they would need to do is buy enough stock in a corporation and direct that the corporation make the campaign contribution. Then add to that the limits that are placed on personal contributions while corporations can give way more to finance US elections than regular citizens.
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Is that typically a problem? I've never heard of it being, but then, though I've rented in many different cities, I've never rented in SoCal. I would be floored if it's really hard to do.

    I do know tons of people in LA with roommates, though.




    They aren't going to get an apartment by themselves if they don't, so it's a moot point.
    I DO find it amusing that everybody is ok with the fact that renting others' money is a prerequisite for living in this country.

    When I was a kid, credit was frowned upon except for cars and homes. Now if you don't use it you're ****ed.
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    In N Out Burger pays well over minimum wage to start and provides benefits, so it CAN be done profitably.
    They're also minimalist on everything else. Kind of their claim to fame.
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    They're also minimalist on everything else. Kind of their claim to fame.
    Not sure where they're more "minimalist" than McDonalds or Jack in the Box.

    They towel drain their fries and are so busy that they have people taking orders in the parking lot during peak hours.

    They also cut their own fries and their burgers are pressed in-house. At other places they come frozen in boxes.
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    Not sure where they're more "minimalist" than McDonalds or Jack in the Box.
    They have a very limited menu.

    I never said they weren't busy.
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    They have a very limited menu.

    I never said they weren't busy.
    And yet people with more "complicated" jobs deserve less money?
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    In N Out Burger pays well over minimum wage to start and provides benefits, so it CAN be done profitably.
    Which brings us back to "work somewhere else, then".

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