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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    Well saying states have a thing called latitude, that does not equate to full transparency.
    it is daylight and dark compared to what we had before

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    They certainly didn't want to create a Banana Republic.

    they created a government of divided power, mixed government, what is known as republican government

    the people have half the power and the states have the other half.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    I always thought that the Revolutionary War was about the power of the Bank of England, the King's bank, and the monies that founded and controlled the Colonies. The Banks had too much power and does that sound familiar?
    one thing that set the people of America off was the stamp act, every piece of paper had to have the kings stamp on it.

    it was the king, that the founders set their sites on, they even tried to work with the king over their disagreements, the king send them a letter, to the continental congress refusing to work with them over problems and even threating them.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Unitedwestand13 View Post
    and as I asked you before

    what would you rather have........corruption on a large scale [federal] or corruption on a small scale [a state]. I chose the latter..

    because it is easier to clean up corruption on a state level then it is a national level.

    corruption shall always exist, the object it to contain it ........................to limited scale........why the founders created limited government.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Commie View Post
    Weren't most of the expansions of corporate rights created by the courts? The Citizen's United decision that has made unlimited corporate campaign funding possible, was a gift from the Supremes!.

    only because the law was created [lobbying of special interest] then challenged, if the senate had been in the state hands, the legislation would have not seen the light of day to begin with let alone reach the court.


    Quote Originally Posted by Commie View Post
    I've heard that before, and every time I'm left wondering why conservatives talk on endlessly about encouraging democracy in foreign countries, while refraining from using the word at home.
    democracy is a vile form of government-- james madsion father of the constitution.

    faction/ special interest....... is huge by-product of democracy, ..it is always at war with individual rights of the people.

    federalist 10 --The other point of difference is, the greater number of citizens and extent of territory which may be brought within the compass of republican than of democratic government; and it is this circumstance principally which rendersfactious combinations less to be dreaded in the former than in the latter

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by ernst barkmann View Post
    here is what i took from your statement

    you stated plainly....."If the owner wants to come out and say what he/she believes than fine".........so the business has an.... owner.

    if someone owns the property, then that property follows his lead.......its not a collective business......no other person else gets to decide policy that affects the company.

    reproductive rights?........you have your opinion, and can voice your opinion,....... however that opinion cannot damage my property if you are my employee.

    and as an employee you have no authority to force the owner to give him things, he wants.
    If he /she speaks for the company and the matter is about -- example -- reproductive rights instead of the business direction than I wouldn't care for it. Let the owner state their personal beliefs individually instead of collectively.

    Owner: "This company is going to make steel product as well as plastic." (acceptable)

    Owner: "This company does not believe in abortion." (unacceptable)
    "The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed incorporations." `Thomas Jefferson

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I disagree, either everyone's interest are represented or no one's is.
    If a business doesnt represent you, dont work there. If i ran a business i would speak out for gun owners and say "guns are welcome here, we respect the second amendment", if you dont like it, work somewhere else.
    Quote Originally Posted by Commie View Post
    And I don't consider the wisdom of libertarians...who believe natural selection theory applies to social interactions, and have no prescriptions to deal with concentrations of private power. Libertarian and similar objectivist ideologies, are scams crafted by the rich and powerful to justify an unequal distribution of wealth.
    Yeah its all a ****ing conspiracy. Heres a prescription: if you dont like a business dont shop there. Dont work there. Dont give your business to people you dont like.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    If he /she speaks for the company and the matter is about -- example -- reproductive rights instead of the business direction than I wouldn't care for it. Let the owner state their personal beliefs individually instead of collectively.

    Owner: "This company is going to make steel product as well as plastic." (acceptable)

    Owner: "This company does not believe in abortion." (unacceptable)
    excuse.... but its the owners company and he can make any statements he wishes on HIS company, you are saying he can only make statements acceptable to you.

    you don't have authority to stop a business man from making statements on his own property .


    If one disagrees then they have the liberty to disagree, however they have no right to create division of the company because they don't like the companies position, the company is owed by one, it is not owned or managed by the workers ..a collective.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    If he /she speaks for the company and the matter is about -- example -- reproductive rights instead of the business direction than I wouldn't care for it. Let the owner state their personal beliefs individually instead of collectively.

    Owner: "This company is going to make steel product as well as plastic." (acceptable)

    Owner: "This company does not believe in abortion." (unacceptable)
    If you find it unacceptable, dont work there.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    If a business doesnt represent you, dont work there. If i ran a business i would speak out for gun owners and say "guns are welcome here, we respect the second amendment", if you dont like it, work somewhere else.
    So you buy this company and change the policy to allow people to bring in guns because you respect the second Amendment. So then what happens when one worker shoots another and you get sued for helping to create a work environment that encouraged guns in the workplace?
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