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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    if corporations can't be considered one, lawyers in large firms shouldn't be either
    Corporation: a fictitious entity to limit liability. A paperwork façade to keep the legal repercussions from becoming personal. I use the word personal to make note that they have legally chosen not to be a "person," to escape liability/responsibility. That is as clear a reason as I can state that Corporations should not be given "person's" rights.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Corporation: a fictitious entity to limit liability. A paperwork façade to keep the legal repercussions from becoming personal. I use the word personal to make note that they have legally chosen not to be a "person," to escape liability/responsibility. That is as clear a reason as I can state that Corporations should not be given "person's" rights.
    I disagree, either everyone's interest are represented or no one's is.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    I disagree, either everyone's interest are represented or no one's is.
    If you take away corporate personhood, how is it that "not everyone's interest" is represented?

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    If you take away corporate personhood, how is it that "not everyone's interest" is represented?
    Why take it away, it is transparent the way it is, it goes under the table and becomes less transparent

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    You are wrong that retail jobs are meant only for college/HS students. Look at the ages of retail workers next time you shop. You have quite a mix.
    Please note, I never said only HS/college kids work there. I said, that is what it is meant for. It is not meant for someone to take a job as a cashier and stay in that position, stagnating, for 30 years and make enough to raise a family and have a savings. Just because some do decide to stagnate in retail, does not change what retail really is.. non-skilled work that is paid as non-skilled work. People making low wages while working full time has been around forever... well before Walmart... Even if that is only as far back as you are aware of.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Rocketman View Post
    if corporations can't be considered one, lawyers in large firms shouldn't be either
    Yeah. A firm is a firm and not a human being.
    "The end of democracy and the defeat of the American Revolution will occur when government falls into the hands of lending institutions and moneyed incorporations." `Thomas Jefferson

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by What if...? View Post
    And yet CU grants anonymity to corporate and private donors.
    Your Point? This document isn't something that is widely distributed or available to the general public, and thus might as well be considered anonymous for these purposes.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    You're blaming the business for paying a fair labor cost, then demanding they pay more because their employees are taking advantage of the welfare system.
    I would use the phrase "what the market will bear" as opposed to a "fair" wage. Fair is very relative.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    It's unskilled labor, meant mainly for high school and college students. It is not a job you are meant to camp out at and raise a family with. If someone makes the decision that Walmart or other unskilled labor is all they want to do, or their prior decisions makes it all that they can do, it should not be society's requirement to take care of them. For the type of labor involved, $8.00 / hour is more then fair. I don't know where this belief that all full time jobs should pay enough to raise a family and have extra leftover for savings started, but it really is ridiculous.
    Are there enough college students and retirees to fill all the retail jobs?

    Are there jobs for them to move into to allow the next crop have a job?

    Retail used to be a full time job that paid a living wage.

    Remember the days when clerks had encyclopedic knowledge of the products they sold?

    When they rendered real service?

    I do.

    You get what you pay for.
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Hamster Buddha View Post
    Your Point? This document isn't something that is widely distributed or available to the general public, and thus might as well be considered anonymous for these purposes.
    You brought up union spending in an environment where there will be no such records for corporate and private donations under CU.
    Anyone wondering what I'm talking about start here:
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