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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Wrong. A court does condemn the inmate, but the execution cannot take place until the governor signs the order, and of course, the governor can pardon a condemned criminal instead of signing the order too.

    Fact remains that I will believe that corporations are people only when Perry executes one.


    the Governor does NOT sign execution orders (that would be the judge), nor does he set execution dates.... his only role , basically, is to pardon, or not to pardon.... and to oversee the branch who carries out the judges order.

    that aside, there are already many many "corporate executions" that go on....corporations are killed off frequently, for many reasons ( failure to file reviving documents are the top reason in some states, ceasing business operations is probably the top reason overall)
    the thing is, they are killed off by paper pushing bureaucrats, not judges or Governors.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Texas is a "weak governor" state. The governor can grant clemency only with the assent of a majority of the Board of Pardons and Paroles.

    Texas Board of Pardons and Paroles Executive Clemency Page

    Governor of Texas - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by buck View Post
    The two largest chains in my area are Jewel (where my wife works) and Dominicks. Dominicks is going out of business (I think December is the end date), largely because their prices were so high - thanks in large part to their unions. A few years back Dominicks tried renegotiating with their unions to try to get a reasonable contract. They failed and tried to sell the business. No one was interested due to their labor costs. I live across the street from one, and used to stop in there to pick up an item or two - due to convenience - and almost always walked out with nothing due to their prices.

    Jewel is in trouble too.. Again due mainly to their union payroll. Their long time union work force makes their expenses so high, that they can't compete with Walmart and the other non-union stores up here and not high enough quality to compete with the Marianos and Whole Foods. I guess that happens when you are forced to pay your longer term cashiers $20.00 per hour ($30.00 on Sundays) plus benefits to grab an item and swipe it across a scanner.
    20 and 30 bucks an hour? For a grocery store? Are you BSing me?

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    This country began on a protest againts taxation without representation. In the end the Citizens United case reaffirmed a long standing understanding that if you can tax it it has a voice. If you don't want an organization to have a voice then stop taxing it. Churches aren't taxed but that comes with a requirement that the Church not engage in political activity.
    Give a man a fish and he eats for a day. Teach a man to fish and he stops voting for the Free Fish party.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Phil_Osophy View Post
    If employees dont like what a corporation does, they can just decide not to work for them. If the people dont like what they do, we can just decide not to buy anything from them. Thats how a free market works.
    That would be a gross oversimplification.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    If corporations are people, then when they have been found to be breaking laws, no settling with fines, they shut be required to close their collective doors for a set period of time (jail), and if the crimes are serious enough, dissolved entirely (death).

    Once corporations are held to the same level of liabilities for their collective actions as I am for mine, then by all means, they may enjoy similar rights and privileges.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    That would be a gross oversimplification.
    No it's not, unless you believe in conscription or indentured servitude.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    20 and 30 bucks an hour? For a grocery store? Are you BSing me?
    20 is a little high, but perfectly possible if an employee has been in that spot long enough, getting mandatory minimum wages enforced by the union. And Sundays are time and a half for some folks.
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    No it's not, unless you believe in conscription or indentured servitude.
    So if BJs Wholesale Club announces that it, and it's employees, support Mitt Romney, my only recourse should be to ditch my career there, and start over?
    Quote Originally Posted by calamity View Post
    Reports indicate that everyone knew he was hauling a bunch of guns up there. But, since you brought it up, there's something which should be illegal: guns that breakdown.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by KevinKohler View Post
    So if BJs Wholesale Club announces that it, and it's employees, support Mitt Romney, my only recourse should be to ditch my career there, and start over?
    You don't have to. You're free to work as you choose. I'm a self-preservationist, so I'm fine with them molesting Cambodian children in the stock room if I gets my money.

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