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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    A lot of the statistics the socialist wing give out are misleading anyway. Many corporations had actual losses a few years back during the recession, which they are able to carry forward to offset recovery income, thereby reducing taxable income.

    Of course, as you pointed out, about half of Americans in any given year actually get money back from the government not actually earned (EIC, child credits, etc.) or have an effective taxable income of 0. The left like to leave that little stain out.
    No, some of these corporations are quite profitable. They get the breaks because of powerful lobbying efforts.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I did quite well. And, the other countries they were talking about are suppose to have a lower effective rate than US corporations only many US corporations are paying less due to a myriad of breaks and loopholes.

    If you are interested in seeing which corporations paid no taxes to see if they were profitable, here is a link: Thirty companies paid no U.S. income tax 2008-2010: report | Reuters
    Are you as concerned with individuals that pay low, to no, income taxes due to current loopholes?
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    Oh, good lord; "fair share." Something people LOVE to toss around but nobody wants to define, so that it can always mean "more than they're paying now."
    No, they gave numbers.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    No, some of these corporations are quite profitable. They get the breaks because of powerful lobbying efforts.
    Propaganda. I've explained in as simple of economic and accounting terms as to why business show losses quite frequently.

    Also, it's funny how you argue the profitability of corporations this fresh after "too big to fail" got burned into the American psyche.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No. You've simply offered little to back up your factual assertions, and I've told what the problem is with those things you HAVE offered.

    If that's all you've got, then there isn't much else to say. You don't have the faintest idea what you're talking about, and you don't even know why your "support" doesn't actually . . . support you. (Even though I've told you.)
    No, you haven't.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    I did quite well.


    More "yuh-HUHH!" You didn't say what you thought you said, and just as before, I already explained why.

    And, the other countries they were talking about are suppose to have a lower effective rate than US corporations only many US corporations are paying less due to a myriad of breaks and loopholes.
    Yeah, I said that. It doesn't mean the US corporations paid a lower rate on their adjusted taxable income.

    If you are interested in seeing which corporations paid no taxes to see if they were profitable, here is a link: Thirty companies paid no U.S. income tax 2008-2010: report | Reuters
    If they were offsetting past losses, profitability in one specific year doesn't mean much.
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    No, you haven't.
    OK, now it's "nuh-UHHHH!!!!!"

    What a waste of time. Buh-bye.
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by rabbitcaebannog View Post
    No, some of these corporations are quite profitable. They get the breaks because of powerful lobbying efforts.
    Maybe you can elaborate on exactly what breaks they are getting? It seems to me all the breaks go to the poeple that don't pay a dime of federal income tax. Plus they get all the freebies like welfare, medicare, food stamps, section eight housing, forgiveness of student loans, free medical, etc etc etc the list goes on from there.
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    Propaganda. I've explained in as simple of economic and accounting terms as to why business show losses quite frequently.

    Also, it's funny how you argue the profitability of corporations this fresh after "too big to fail" got burned into the American psyche.
    It's not propaganda. Bank of America, Citigroup, ExxonMobil, FedEx, GE, Honeywell, Microsoft, Pfizer and Verizon all made very high profits while paying record lows on corporate income tax. The did NOT show losses.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Maybe you can elaborate on exactly what breaks they are getting? It seems to me all the breaks go to the poeple that don't pay a dime of federal income tax. Plus they get all the freebies like welfare, medicare, food stamps, section eight housing, forgiveness of student loans, free medical, etc etc etc the list goes on from there.
    The whole "blame lobbies" red herring is just a baseless tautology used by leftists and the uninformed. They want someone to blame, and they want to believe in crap like this. They do the same thing with all these "loopholes", yet frequently refrain from supplying them. That's basically what they'll use to describe economic windfalls used to increase positive externalities and encourage employment levels, along with domestic revenue.

    It's like they have a playbook full of buzzwords that they shout to replace any legitimate or respectable argument or evidence.

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