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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    SCOTUS thinks they are.
    No. You just think SCOTUS said something it didn't.

    There are a LOT of people who think the rulings in Citizens United were something other than what they are (everyone who parrots that that the ruling was "corporations are people."). You are not alone in that. You are the first one I've seen, though, so say something so ludicrously specific as:

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    The law now says that they're a person, not a corporate person.
    Which is pulled entirely out of your ass.
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    And this folks has been one of the things that I have been trying to convey in this thread: Gipper never asked me about this whatsoever, so what is he doing? Putting words in another person's mouth -- in other words representing me without my consent. Part of the collective that I didn't agree to.
    You're a partisan hack. I know how partisan hacks operate. You're nothing special.

    I know the "butthurt" posting position. You weren't the first. You won't be the last.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    I will agree that corporations are people just as soon as Rick Perry executes one of them.
    Great analogy.
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Gipper View Post
    You're a partisan hack. I know how partisan hacks operate. You're nothing special.

    I know the "butthurt" posting position. You weren't the first. You won't be the last.
    Whatever Gipper. Go write a book about it if you want to -- just don't write a forward to it and say that I wrote it.
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    Great analogy.
    No, it isn't. It's a dumb joke which doesn't stand up the slightest bit of actual scrutiny. danarhea, I think, actually understands that. You don't seem to.
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    And this folks has been one of the things that I have been trying to convey in this thread: Gipper never asked me about this whatsoever, so what is he doing? Putting words in another person's mouth -- in other words representing me without my consent. Part of the collective that I didn't agree to.
    I find it ironic that you keep mentioning collectives you never consented to.

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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    The law now says that they're a person, not a corporate person. Just a fancy way of getting out of being refereed to as collective. Anyways...should be interesting to see how Scalia deals with this; he is going to have to consider all future implications on this matter.
    Yes. It's a legal fiction.

    legal fiction: A fact assumed or created by courts which is then used in order to apply a legal rule which was not necessarily designed to be used in that way.

    Since according to our laws, only persons can be taxed, or buy and sell goods, be held liable or be sued; the courts therefore made corporations into legal persons.

    They were not saying corporations are literally people. Only that the courts wanted to make it so that the US could legally tax corporations and sue them, without having to completely rewrite the US Constitution.

    It's an argument about semantics, that the left (and right) describes incorrectly in order to earn votes.
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No. You just think SCOTUS said something it didn't.

    There are a LOT of people who think the rulings in Citizens United were something other than what they are (everyone who parrots that that the ruling was "corporations are people."). You are not alone in that. You are the first one I've seen, though, so say something so ludicrously specific as:



    Which is pulled entirely out of your ass.
    I disagree. I say SCOTUS ruled them as a person.
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by Bob N View Post
    I disagree. I say SCOTUS ruled them as a person.
    You can "disagree" until the sun goes red giant; it won't make you correct.

    If they did so, cite the language. Until you can do that, you're talking out of your aforementioned rectal orifice.
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    Re: Corporations Aren't People

    Quote Originally Posted by brothern View Post
    Yes. It's a legal fiction.

    legal fiction: A fact assumed or created by courts which is then used in order to apply a legal rule which was not necessarily designed to be used in that way.

    Since according to our laws, only persons can be taxed, or buy and sell goods, be held liable or be sued; therefore the courts made corporations into legal persons. They're were not saying corporations are literally people. The courts wanted to make it so that the US could legally tax corporations and sue them, without having to completely rewrite the US Constitution.
    I sure wish that when it came to my fiscal relationship with the state they would make me fiction too; that sure would make me feel like a person.
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