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    Re: Joan Rivers Tells It Like It Is

    Quote Originally Posted by rhinefire View Post
    Slurs While Defending Alec Baldwin, Tells America to “Relax” — WATCH VIDEOTruth rating: 10
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    Joan Rivers unloads a string of slurs in a new video after being asked about the fallout over Alec Baldwin’s recent use of homophobic language.
    The comedian has no use for political correctness, and makes her case with some extremely sensitive terms.
    “Everybody, just relax,” says Rivers in response to the Baldwin situation.
    She goes on to say, “Everybody is either a wop, a n**ger, a k*ke, a ch*nk, a fairy, a mick… everybody’s something, so why don’t we all just calm down?”
    Rivers adds, “Be thankful that we’re all living in America, and stop everybody getting so damn uptight.”
    Do you think she has a point, or is she way off base?

    I think she's right.
    Racial/ethnic slurs would have no effect if people just didn't react to them.
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    Re: Joan Rivers Tells It Like It Is

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    However, that's not what the Baldwin controversy is about. What it's about is how he used someone's sexual orientation as the basis of a slur.
    Why this is HORRIBLE! How will these poor people ever recover? Poor things.

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    Re: Joan Rivers Tells It Like It Is

    Quote Originally Posted by Top Cat View Post
    I'm sure right wing whack jobs love this piece.

    Honestly. Rivers is a used up wrinkled douche bag. .
    No, you're completely wrong about that. Actually the hurtful and disgusting things she said are closely aligned to your own delight and viciousness in using the words "Right wing whack jobs" and "Used up wrinkled douche bag" in your post.

    There was a time in which American comedians were actually funny. You could watch their acts and actually feel humor to the extent you would laugh out loud. And at the same time, there was no swearing at all, no insults or meanness, no humiliation to others, no grossness or depravity, just good clean, clever and fun humor.

    What changed was Liberal/MTV pop culture with it's "everything is good" NO JUDGMENTS demands for excesses in everything, sex, porn, language, grossness, everything must be x rated, no standards. That is what we now have and that is what your post and Joan Rivers reflect. It must be a shock, it must hurt others, it must have no dignity, it must eschew morality and decency, then it is lauded as "funny." As you become accustomed to that, then it must get worse to get Liberal accolades.

    You cannot degrade a culture in that way and then demand that very strict standards be maintained in the specific areas you designate. Once the culture goes, it goes completely.

    If you want to upgrade our culture, put dignity back in American life and language, it will have to be across the board, not selectively. But who is willing to do that?
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    Re: Joan Rivers Tells It Like It Is

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    Why this is HORRIBLE! How will these poor people ever recover? Poor things.
    I think the way some people are so sensitive about how other people react in response to their sensitivities is hilarious.
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    Re: Joan Rivers Tells It Like It Is

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Yes, it's the old "I stand against your elitism which gives you the power to define what is acceptable and what is not. That power belongs to me!"

    Gotta admit, that's one funny bit!
    The politics of comedy lol. There was a somewhat clever show that used to be on called The Green Room. It was mostly pretty great stuff, but really niche. Anyways, they'd get into the parts of jokes and what makes them cool or horrible, they would drink and whatnot. Then sometimes there would be almost no self-awareness when they were venturing into politics. Some of the political commentary would be hilarious, but then other times it would seem beyond redemption, like you were staring into the face of an angry child after they were told Santa Claus did not exist.
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    Re: Joan Rivers Tells It Like It Is

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    The politics of comedy lol. There was a somewhat clever show that used to be on called The Green Room. It was mostly pretty great stuff, but really niche. Anyways, they'd get into the parts of jokes and what makes them cool or horrible, they would drink and whatnot. Then sometimes there would be almost no self-awareness when they were venturing into politics. Some of the political commentary would be hilarious, but then other times it would seem beyond redemption, like you were staring into the face of an angry child after they were told Santa Claus did not exist.
    Never heard of it, but it's on YouTube


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    Re: Joan Rivers Tells It Like It Is

    She is dead right...PC has gotten WAAAAAY out of hand.

    Supposedly, Baldwin said the following: ' “c**ksucking f*g”'

    So what?

    If the guy is gay, he probably does suck penis. And if he isn't, then the statement shouldn't bother him at all since it's not applicable.



    I think Baldwin is a pig - and that freakout on his daughter is 1,000 times worse to me then this.

    But free speech is above everything to me.

    Good for Joan Rivers.

    Anyone actually offended by this is WAAAAAY too thin skinned.

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    Re: Joan Rivers Tells It Like It Is

    Quote Originally Posted by sangha View Post
    Never heard of it, but it's on YouTube


    Thanks for the suggestion
    Ha, that's great. If you watch that particular episode, it's like a direct commentary on the subject of this thread. Like I said, some of them are pretty, well, not really aware of how they sound.
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    Re: Joan Rivers Tells It Like It Is

    Quote Originally Posted by Fiddytree View Post
    Ha, that's great. If you watch that particular episode, it's like a direct commentary on the subject of this thread. Like I said, some of them are pretty, well, not really aware of how they sound.

    Yeah, I just got done listening to that episode. It was great!

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    Re: Joan Rivers Tells It Like It Is

    Quote Originally Posted by Glen Contrarian View Post
    I was trying to post a comment in another racial thread that was suddenly closed for review...but my comment applies here, and shows why Baldwin and Rivers (and I've always liked Joan Rivers) are simply wrong. The thread was concerning the "right" of whites to use the n-word...but I think we can all agree that the same principle applies when it comes to homophobic slurs...or slurs of any type.

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    The same people who think it should be okay to use the n-word whenever they want are the same kind of people who think it should be okay to say queer, kike, spic, macaca, hymie, raghead, chink, Jew-boy, wetback, faggot, bluegum, coon, rice-n***er, slopehead, wop, zipperhead...the list goes on. There's no NEED to use these words. If someone who really is Jewish wants to call his fellow Jews "kikes", fine, he can do that - Mel Brooks was famous for making fun of his fellow Jews (and he's still the best comedy director ever). If blacks want to call each other names, fine. If a Hispanic wants to call his fellow Hispanics spics, fine.

    You see where I'm going with this - if you want to use the words against your OWN kind...fine. That's between you and those of your own kind, whatever your particular kind may be.

    In fact, if you'll think about it, it's not even about race or ethnicity - it's about those within a group being the ONLY ones who can really get away with insulting those who are a part of that group. For instance, if one Marine calls another Marine a 'Jarhead', they'll likely both laugh about it...but if I walk up and call some Marine a 'Jarhead', he'll most likely laugh with me (or more likely laugh AT me)...but he might also punch me in the mouth and dare me to do something about it (and it would be stupid of me to assume that the Marine would do otherwise). For another example, if I were to walk up to one of my fellow whites in the MS Delta and call them a redneck, he'll probably laugh about it and proudly agree...but he just might see it in the way that I'm no longer a Southerner and have lost any right to call him a redneck, and things might go downhill from there.

    It even applies to religion - if one Southern Baptist (and I was one, once) refers to a SB preacher as "a real hellfire-and-brimstone preacher", other SB's would laugh about it and nod their heads in agreement...but if a Muslim says that about a SB preacher, you'd probably agree that there wouldn't be any laughter, that things might be taking a very dangerous turn, indeed. "How dare that Muslim think he can talk about our preacher that way? He ain't one of us!"

    This is why it's okay for blacks to use the n-word, but not us. It's not about race or ethnicity, but about us not being part of that particular group.

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    And this is why it's okay for LGBT's to call each other insulting slurs, but it's NOT okay for those of us who are straight to do so. We're not (or at least most of us are not) part of that group.
    Libbos don't hesitate to call someone white trash, yet are damn slow to condemn it.

    Y'all don't really care, outside the realm of political correctness.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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