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Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

cpwill said:
:lamo Well, that lasted about slightly less 72 hours.


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Wow, the Free Beacon telling us how Iran is touting how Washington politicians lied. Sounds like veteran's day at the Liar's Club.

I am not sure why anyone should look for the needle of truth in this haystack. Try posting an article from someplace other than a political porn site and then ask for legitimate discussion.
 
specklebang said:
I realize Obama has a credibility problem but I'm not sure I consider Iran to be a reliable source.
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Well, the point is that it really doesn't matter who is lying - the fact remains that the Iranians are going to "interpret" any deal that is struck as allowing them to continue to do exactly what they are doing, and the administration is going to "interpret" any deal that is struck to allow them to try to sell themselves as a success story to the American people. Who is actually correct here is sort of immaterial.

Iran needs a nuke like they need a hole in the head. There is no more useless investment a country can make.
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Unless, of course, you are an autocratic regime interested in the ultimate guarantee that you will not get a hole in your head ;).
 
Captain America said:
I find it amazing that the hatred some people have for Obama exceeds their disdain for Iran. They would side with Iran over Obama.

They seem to have forgotten. It seems just like yesterday that these folks were saying we can't trust a lying Iran. (Which, I do believe is true.) No wait. That WAS yesterday!

That speaks volumes in and of itself.
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See Reply Immediately before this one.


You can't trust Iran. As Secretary Kerry is now learning :lol:
 
Born Free said:
Now who is telling the truth, I sure don't believe Obama.
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Meh, my bet is that both are trying to pull the language as far as they can in order to sell themselves to their respective publics. The point being that, in order to have to do that, they have to come to mutually contradicting positions.
 
loader said:
And Obama and Biden. But election machine built by Axelrod, works fine.
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"There's no political handlers who are good at their job in the Republican party!"

(Actually judging from the performance of their last 2 Presidential Candidates, that might be true...)
 
rocket88 said:
"There's no political handlers who are good at their job in the Republican party!"

(Actually judging from the performance of their last 2 Presidential Candidates, that might be true...)
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Also true. Sadly ...
 
cpwill said:
:) CNN is reporting this as well.
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Link? And if so, maybe next time you should use CNN instead of a right wing site. It'll save you some time.


But thanks for the (poor) attempt at ad hominem.
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If you don't want to get called out for using Right Wing sites, don't use Right Wing sites. :)
 
Captain America said:
I find it amazing that the hatred some people have for Obama exceeds their disdain for Iran. They would side with Iran over Obama.

They seem to have forgotten. It seems just like yesterday that these folks were saying we can't trust a lying Iran. (Which, I do believe is true.) No wait. That WAS yesterday!

That speaks volumes in and of itself.
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You cant trust Iran...huh...good point. I mean...less than 3 days after a deal was made, they are already looking for ways to get around terms of 'the deal'. Or...maybe the terms of the deal ARENT what has been represented. Maybe thats why people are skeptical of a 'deal' that isnt really a 'deal'. Now...can you trust the White House? Certainly their credibility isnt exactly a house built on a firm foundation.

I suppose we shall see. I suspect this will be like every other PR 'victory' and this will be addressed again in 3 months, 6 months, 9 months, a year, etc. All along, Iran has insisted their developmental processes were peaceful and the US and others believe they have been deceptive. Ah...but NOW...now things are going to be different. Fo sho.
 
upsideguy said:
Wow, the Free Beacon telling us how Iran is touting how Washington politicians lied. Sounds like veteran's day at the Liar's Club.

I am not sure why anyone should look for the needle of truth in this haystack. Try posting an article from someplace other than a political porn site and then ask for legitimate discussion.
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The Free Beacon is merely citing the comments made by Iranian government representatives posted in an Iranian newspaper.
Farsnews
 
American said:
I believe the Iranians more than our President, who is a big fat liar. And Kerry is a nincompoop.
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The Libbos swore up-n-down that the Iranians were completely trustworthy, so...
 
Captain America said:
I find it amazing that the hatred some people have for Obama exceeds their disdain for Iran. They would side with Iran over Obama.

They seem to have forgotten. It seems just like yesterday that these folks were saying we can't trust a lying Iran. (Which, I do believe is true.) No wait. That WAS yesterday!

That speaks volumes in and of itself.
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Well, Obama sided with the Iranians against America.
 
Jredbaron96 said:
Link? And if so, maybe next time you should use CNN instead of a right wing site. It'll save you some time.
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:) hard to link to an iHeartRadio podcast ;) however in the future maybe Google is your friend :)

If you don't want to get called out for using Right Wing sites, don't use Right Wing sites. :)
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:shrug: there is nothing wrong with using Right Wing sites, any more than there is with citing left wing sites or think tanks.
 
So has anybody found what the meat of the difference is between the Iranian and White House releases?

Besides the fact that it's as yet unclear what the difference between the two deals actually is, not even Al Jazeera is reporting this story. I'm increasingly skeptical about this.
 
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Ben K. said:
As queried previously, where's the contradiction?
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Did you bother reading the article or the initial article it was cited from or the White House comments?

“What has been released by the website of the White House as a fact sheet is a one-sided interpretation of the agreed text in Geneva and some of the explanations and words in the sheet contradict the text of the Joint Plan of Action (the title of the Iran-powers deal), and this fact sheet has unfortunately been translated and released in the name of the Geneva agreement by certain media, which is not true,” Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Marziyeh Afkham said on Tuesday.
 
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