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    Re: Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

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    hard to link to an iHeartRadio podcast however in the future maybe Google is your friend



    there is nothing wrong with using Right Wing sites, any more than there is with citing left wing sites or think tanks.
    What's wrong with linking to overtly right and left wing sources is that you often find that the meat of the story is bull****.

    Many a thread I had to sadly abandon the idea of starting because I couldn't find a link to a legitimate or corroborating source.

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    Re: Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Did you bother reading the article or the initial article it was cited from or the White House comments?

    “What has been released by the website of the White House as a fact sheet is a one-sided interpretation of the agreed text in Geneva and some of the explanations and words in the sheet contradict the text of the Joint Plan of Action (the title of the Iran-powers deal), and this fact sheet has unfortunately been translated and released in the name of the Geneva agreement by certain media, which is not true,” Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Marziyeh Afkham said on Tuesday.
    Yeah, we saw that. It doesn't go into any detail on what the nature of those differences are. All we have is someone's statement, not any kind of understanding of the facts beneath it.

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    Re: Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    hard to link to an iHeartRadio podcast
    Sounds like a personal problem.

    however in the future maybe Google is your friend
    I did. No dice.



    there is nothing wrong with using Right Wing sites, any more than there is with citing left wing sites or think tanks.
    Yes, there is. Right wing and left wing sites are classified as such because they purposely mislead people with out of context quotes, unsubstantiated rumors or flat out wrong information.
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    Re: Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by loader View Post
    Both Presidents, Bush father and Bush son, made ​​similar mistakes. Bush father stopped our troops in Kuwait, although there was a great opportunity, even then destroy Saddam regime. Bush's son did not go further in Iran, which at the time was very convenient between the two our major forces in Iraq and in Afghanistan.
    LOL No war is convenient, especially one against a country like Iran. You seem to enjoy invading sovereign nations. Do you think we are like the Nazi's?

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    Re: Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

    First off, Daily Mail. Bad apdst.

    Second, all it links back to is Farsnews again.
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    Re: Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

    Reuters is reporting (some other outlets as well) that some Iranian officials, including Zarif the foreign minister, have been making comments that look like hedging on portions of the deal like ceasing work on the Arak Lightwater Reactor. They have apparently been saying that construction will continue but that no more nuclear fuel will be introduced and no new installations constructed. This has sparked considerable confusion.

    Iran says to continue building at Arak nuclear site despite deal | Reuters

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    Re: Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    The Free Beacon is merely citing the comments made by Iranian government representatives posted in an Iranian newspaper.
    Farsnews
    Iranian newspapers are read by the Iranian people. These statements were made for their benefit only. Saving face is an important part of Iran's propaganda ministers. The fact that the right is falling for it too only demonstrates their radical partisanship. It is a disgrace.

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    Re: Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by Sherman123 View Post
    Reuters is reporting (some other outlets as well) that some Iranian officials, including Zarif the foreign minister, have been making comments that look like hedging on portions of the deal like ceasing work on the Arak Lightwater Reactor. They have apparently been saying that construction will continue but that no more nuclear fuel will be introduced and no new installations constructed. This has sparked considerable confusion.

    Iran says to continue building at Arak nuclear site despite deal | Reuters
    Thanks for this.

    However, nuclear expert Mark Hibbs of the Carnegie Endowment think-tank said Zarif's statement seemed to be an attempt to reassure anti-Western hardliners in Iran that the Arak project will survive diplomacy with the powers.

    "It doesn't matter whether Iran is doing excavation work or civil construction work around the reactor," Hibbs said.

    "What matters for now is that there is no fuel production and testing, that there is no installation at the reactor. Freezing much more than that might be seen by hardliners as total suspension of the project and therefore unacceptable."
    For the next few weeks or months deciphering fact from the noise that comes with saving face may be impossible.

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    Re: Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by iguanaman View Post
    Iranian newspapers are read by the Iranian people. These statements were made for their benefit only. Saving face is an important part of Iran's propaganda ministers. The fact that the right is falling for it too only demonstrates their radical partisanship. It is a disgrace.
    There are more than a few concerned nations that arent exactly sold on the 'deal'. And its rather comical that you insist that the Iranians cant be trusted in what they say and yet you celebrate an agreement based on what they say.

    How many years now have they been playing this cat and mouse game while even the current administration is convinced they are deceptive in their intent at the development of nuclear weapons?

    Oh...and as to who is being truthful...
    "On Tuesday Abbas Araqchi, Iran's top nuclear negotiator told Trend magazine in Azerbaijan that 'Iran's uranium enrichment right cannot be granted or limited by another countries.'

    And Ali Akbar Salehi, the head of Iran’s Atomic Energy Organization, insisted on Monday that the Geneva accord won't affect operations at his nation’s major nuclear sites.

    'Work at the Arak reactor will continue,' Salehi said. '[Uranium] enrichment to 5 percent will continue. Research and development will continue. All our exploration and extraction activities will continue. There are no activities that won’t continue."

    He announced on Tuesday that Iran's enrichment program will actually increase, and added that construction of the heavy-water reactor at Arak – which the U.S. believes is one component of a plutonium production facility – will continue as before."

    Followed by...

    "Asked to react to Iran's claim that the White House changed key elements of the agreement for public consumption, she said 'I don’t have any particular response to these reports.'

    But she acknowledged that 'domestic enrichment' would likely be part of 'a limited, tightly constrained and intensively monitored civilian nuclear program' that the West would negotiate with Iran over the next six months."
    Last edited by VanceMack; 11-27-13 at 01:09 PM.

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    Re: Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    Did you bother reading the article or the initial article it was cited from or the White House comments?

    “What has been released by the website of the White House as a fact sheet is a one-sided interpretation of the agreed text in Geneva and some of the explanations and words in the sheet contradict the text of the Joint Plan of Action (the title of the Iran-powers deal), and this fact sheet has unfortunately been translated and released in the name of the Geneva agreement by certain media, which is not true,” Foreign Ministry Spokeswoman Marziyeh Afkham said on Tuesday.
    Yes, I read the article where it originated. It shows the the Iranian version. Wheres the contradiction?

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