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    Re: Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

    I kind of thought of Albert Wohlstetter. I sometimes don't want to bring this one up, because many times I couldn't help but disapprove of his ultimate conclusions about numerous instances, nevertheless, I did continue to think of this.

    Negotiations for an arms agreement usually carry with them a certain amount of euphoria about the ability to enforce even a vaguely worded agreement.
    There have been several clear-cut violations of agreements on the peaceful uses of atomic energy and also violations of the nonproliferation treaty. These have been known to other parties to the atomic energy agreements, and in particular the United States government. And they have also been known to the IAEA. Compliance has not been pressed, nor in general has cheating been acknowledged for fear of jeopardizing past or future agreements. Instead, ambiguities have been used, even where interpretation is far-fetched, as equivocations in order not to disturb the inertia of bureaucracies.
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    Re: Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

    Somebody needs to help me out with this. Why are we allowing Iran to enrich uranium at all? They have ONE nuclear reactor, none currently under construction nor the ability to produce fuel rods. The current one was built and is FUELED by Russia with the depleted fuel remaining Russian property. They have NO other reason for enrichment else munitions.
    'Iran has a major project developing uranium enrichment capability. This program is heavily censured by the UN, since no commercial purpose is evident.'
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    Re: Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Well, that lasted about slightly less 72 hours.
    Nice. And here I was defending the attempt at diplomacy all over this website.
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    Re: Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

    ASSad and Putin had run their course for the GOP for now..
    The GOP has a new friend in Iran, without looking at the agreement first..
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    Re: Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by danarhea View Post
    Bush sold weapons to iran, links please?
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    Re: Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

    Where is Ronald Reagan when you need him?

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    Re: Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by MrVicchio View Post
    Bush sold weapons to iran, links please?
    Both Presidents, Bush father and Bush son, made ​​similar mistakes. Bush father stopped our troops in Kuwait, although there was a great opportunity, even then destroy Saddam regime. Bush's son did not go further in Iran, which at the time was very convenient between the two our major forces in Iraq and in Afghanistan.

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    Re: Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I believe the Iranians more than our President, who is a big fat liar. And Kerry is a nincompoop.
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    Re: Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Well, that lasted about slightly less 72 hours.
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    Conservatives may be celebrating a wee bit on the early side. I clicked the link to the original story, and that News site, "Fars News" (never heard of 'em) had Iran's version of the deal, which you can see here.

    The meat of the deal as seen in the White House's release still appears to be there. However, the article says that the Iranians were particular sticklers for details, and the informality of the White House's agreement is what's irking them.

    In fact one of the reasons why negotiations between Iran and the G5+1 took so long pertained to the accuracy which was needed for choosing the words for the text of the agreement, Afkham said, explaining that the Iranian delegation was much rigid and laid much emphasis on the need for this accuracy.
    So based on this story, at least, everyone seems to have lost their **** prematurely. Neither the White House nor Iran can be said to be dirty rotten liars quite yet (at least, not because of this story).

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    Re: Iran: White House Lying About Details of Nuke Deal

    What is it about this story that's causing everybody to go full retard, arrive at a rigidly formed opinion about the treaty and all without reading the full article or the details of the treaty???

    Christ!
    Last edited by Cardinal; 11-26-13 at 11:50 PM.

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