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    Re: Authorities Destroy Mosques in Angola

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    it wasnt saddam ,qaddafi or assad who supported the islamist militants in the process of arabian spring

    it was CIA

    so teh west wants to exploit the ME after drawing it back to middle ages because you cant control and exploit the educated people unless bigotry keeps them ignorant
    It is becoming increasingly important to separate the Obama government and the actions of that government from the American people.

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    Re: Authorities Destroy Mosques in Angola

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    A regime, be it the Taliban or whatever crackpots are running Angola now, destroy religious structures for the sole reason of exerting power.

    It was a heinous abuse of authority, not to mention history, when the Taliban destroyed the Buddhist sculptures in Afghanistan, and it's a heinous abuse of authority and history for the Angolans to do this. Whether you agree with the religion or not, those sites are steeped in history and should be kept intact.
    Well, not really in terms of history. The mosques in Angola have the historical value of a McDonalds. It's an abuse of freedom of religion. It doesn't really approach the destruction of the Buddhist works in Afghanistan.

    These are slightly more significant than the shack mosque in the video: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Buddhas_of_Bamiyan
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    Re: Authorities Destroy Mosques in Angola

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin Medusa. What is it that bothers you about this? Whom would you say is more known for destroying religious works and burning down Holy structures?

    Another question that should be asked.....why are these African tribes giving up their own Gods and religion to become converts of Islam and then identify themselves as a Muslim. Why would they want to follow those that cannot lead the way Spiritually?
    This is news because it's a "man bites dog" story. Muslims destroying churches and synagogues have reached the level of "man bites sandwich".
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    Re: Authorities Destroy Mosques in Angola

    Quote Originally Posted by Ray410 View Post
    It is becoming increasingly important to separate the Obama government and the actions of that government from the American people.
    huh ?

    l even seperate the messiah junior moron's actions from the people in america! why did you need to make such a stupid post ?
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    Re: Authorities Destroy Mosques in Angola

    Quote Originally Posted by Ben K. View Post
    Well, not really in terms of history. The mosques in Angola have the historical value of a McDonalds. It's an abuse of freedom of religion. It doesn't really approach the destruction of the Buddhist works in Afghanistan.

    These are slightly more significant than the shack mosque in the video: Buddhas of Bamiyan - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
    lets destroy new churches built in turkey ?

    you all would comdemn it

    what a pity

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    Re: Authorities Destroy Mosques in Angola

    Quote Originally Posted by jmotivator View Post
    This is news because it's a "man bites dog" story. Muslims destroying churches and synagogues have reached the level of "man bites sandwich".
    not muslims,islamists

    teh west is developed but people are still ignorant
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    Re: Authorities Destroy Mosques in Angola

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    lets destroy new churches built in turkey ?

    you all would comdemn it

    what a pity

    the west's democracy
    I would deride the decision as I do here, but I wouldn't compare destruction of churches built within the last decade to blowing up millenia old works of craftmanship that would deprive a poor country of tourism.

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    Re: Authorities Destroy Mosques in Angola

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    l believe so called democratic western governments should intervene in Angola. Why? Because they claim to be democrat.
    I don't know about Western governments in general but I know that the United States does a great deal for Angola as it is.

    We provide technical assistance in the development of their oil industry and economy more generally through a number of grants and government programs. Through USAID we assist with civil governance, democratization, agricultural productivity, maternal and child health, HIV/AIDS prevention, education, workforce development; through the Department of Defense we assist with de-mining and weapons abatement programs.

    What more would you have us do?

    Send combat troops into Angola in order to enforce the law and keep the peace?

    That's not really the role of the U.S. military, and besides, if we did it you know full well that the developing world, especially Arab/Muslim nations would be out burning American flags and protesting in the streets about how we're an evil empire bent on global domination.

    And look, we're not talking about a massive war of ethnic/religious cleansing or genocide here.

    We're talking about a couple guys bulldozing a single corrugated steel building that some video on the Internet claims is a Mosque. It appears that they're going about the demolition in a peaceful manner.

    If that building really is a Mosque, and Muslim people are being persecuted, then I agree with you that the Unites States should condemn that behavior and pressure Angolan authorities to knock it off.

    But I've also read several reports of small upstart religions springing up all over Angola in very poor communities and milking gullible, ignorant, provincial people for all they're worth and then picking up stakes and moving on to the next town to do the same thing all over again once they're wrung the population dry. It seems as though it's become a real problem because Angola doesn't have the kind of social safety net to support people being left destitute in that way. And from what I've read this isn't just a Muslim issue. Christians and leaders of, I guess they would be, "cult" religions are doing the same thing.

    Are you sure that what we're seeing is actually a Mosque being torn down?

    Are you sure that it's a well established and thoroughly legitimate Mosque?

    And not some itinerant "Muslim" preacher who is just part of that scene that is going around taking advantage of people?

    Do you know that this is part of some widespread conspiracy and not just an isolated incident in one small town in a country filled with hundreds or thousands of small towns?

    In other words, is this something that is truly worthy of becoming an international incident?

    Finally, I do agree with you that a great many Americans are totally ignorant of the difference between Islam and Islamism, and even more ignorant of the difference between nationalist Islamism and the kind of Salifi Qutbist Jihadin Islamism that results in anti-western terrorism.

    But that's a two way street.

    You are clearly as ignorant of the tremendous amount of aid, assistance, and guidance that America pours into the developing society and government of Angola, and probably most other places around the world too.

    As quick as some Americans are to poke a stick into Islam, it seems like you're equally quick to poke a stick into America.
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    Re: Authorities Destroy Mosques in Angola

    Quote Originally Posted by Medusa View Post
    huh ?

    l even seperate the messiah junior moron's actions from the people in america! why did you need to make such a stupid post ?
    I haven't ever seen that separation in any of your posts. I have seen constant blame of "imperialist" America and the West with sympathy for the Obama Liberals.

    Maybe you need to be more clear in your broad brush Western accusations.

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    Re: Authorities Destroy Mosques in Angola

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Whether you agree with the religion or not, those sites are steeped in history and should be kept intact.
    I'm neither a Buddhist nor a Muslim, but desecration of either of their works - especially if said works are several thousands of years old - is evil in its own right.
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