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    No Animals Were Harmed

    Animals Were Harmed: Hollywood's Nightmare of Death, Injury, and Secrecy Exposed | Hollywood Reporter Exclusive

    American Humane Association monitor Gina Johnson confided in an email to a colleague on April 7, 2011, about the star tiger in Ang Lee’s Life of Pi. While many scenes featuring “Richard Parker,” the Bengal tiger who shares a lifeboat with a boy lost at sea, were created using CGI technology, King, very much a real animal, was employed when the digital version wouldn’t suffice. “This one take with him just went really bad and he got lost trying to swim to the side,” Johnson wrote. “Damn near drowned.”

    King’s trainer eventually snagged him with a catch rope and dragged him to one side of the tank, where he scrambled out to safety.

    As a representative of the American Humane Association — the grantor of the familiar “No Animals Were Harmed” trademark accreditation seen at the end of film and TV credits — it was Johnson’s job to monitor the welfare of the animals used in the production filmed in Taiwan. What’s more, Johnson had a secret: She was intimately involved with a high-ranking production exec on Pi. (AHA’s management subsequently became aware of both the relationship and her email about the tiger incident, which others involved with the production have described in far less dire terms.) Still, Pi, which went on to earn four Oscars and $609 million in global box office, was awarded the “No Animals Were Harmed” credit.

    A year later, during the filming of another blockbuster, Peter Jackson’s The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey, 27 animals reportedly perished, including sheep and goats that died from dehydration and exhaustion or from drowning in water-filled gullies, during a hiatus in filming at an unmonitored New Zealand farm where they were being housed and trained. A trainer, John Smythe, tells THR that AHA’s management, which assigned a representative to the production, resisted investigating when he brought the issue to its attention in August 2012. First, according to an email Smythe shared with THR, an AHA official told him the lack of physical evidence would make it difficult to investigate. When he replied that he had buried the animals himself and knew their location, the official then told him that because the deaths had taken place during the hiatus, the AHA had no jurisdiction. The AHA eventually bestowed a carefully worded credit that noted it “monitored all of the significant animal action. No animals were harmed during such action.”

    And the list goes on: An elderly giraffe died on Sony’s 2011 Zookeeper set and dogs suffering from bloat and cancer died during the production of New Regency’s Marmaduke and The Weinstein Co.’s Our Idiot Brother, respectively (an AHA spokesman confirms the dogs had bloat and says the cancer “was not work-related”). In March, a 5-foot-long shark died after being placed in a small inflatable pool during a Kmart commercial shoot in Van Nuys.

    All of these productions had AHA monitors on set.
    We hear this refrain a lot from the good intentions crowd, but what of it? Apparently it's not true, and many animals have been killed in the making of movies.
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    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    We hear this refrain a lot from the good intentions crowd.
    I'm just gonna say on this little comment... if you're going to try to make this political, that's just ridiculous.

    On the actual story itself... it's pretty bad if true.

    But it just goes to show the power of money, in the same way when one looks recently at the revelations at Sea World and that whole nonsense.

    We can do more.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jetboogieman View Post
    I'm just gonna say on this little comment... if you're going to try to make this political, that's just ridiculous.

    On the actual story itself... it's pretty bad if true.

    But it just goes to show the power of money, in the same way when one looks recently at the revelations at Sea World and that whole nonsense.

    We can do more.
    We have lots of people that have run around for years bitching about the beef industry and every other meat industry, and to have overlooked this for YEARS is the height of hyprocrisy. We're shown dolphins in nets, and all kinds of other "animal cruelty". The implication is that his has gone on in Hollywood for years. And we're fed this disclaimer in every movie containing animal actors, and I myself believed it.
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    Re: No Animals Were Harmed

    And these Hollywood types are oh so liberal and socially conscience. Yet another in a very long list of their hypocrisy. I recently learned that the horse head in the famous Godfather scene was a real horse head. Wonder where they got that.

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    Re: No Animals Were Harmed

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    We have lots of people that have run around for years bitching about the beef industry and every other meat industry, and to have overlooked this for YEARS is the height of hyprocrisy. We're shown dolphins in nets, and all kinds of other "animal cruelty". The implication is that his has gone on in Hollywood for years. And we're fed this disclaimer in every movie containing animal actors, and I myself believed it.
    It's different when they do it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    It's different when they do it.
    Haven't you noticed...It always is!

    Good morning, bubba.

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    Quote Originally Posted by polgara View Post
    Haven't you noticed...It always is!

    Good morning, bubba.
    Yup ... must be because their heart's in the right place ... hey! they say that too.

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    Re: No Animals Were Harmed

    Award for stupidest most pointless, "trying desperately to score political points" thread of the week goes to this one. And it's only Monday.


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    This issue has been plowed more times than Paris Hilton.
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    Too bad we have to observe human rights.

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    Re: No Animals Were Harmed

    Quote Originally Posted by bubbabgone View Post
    Yup ... must be because their heart's in the right place ... hey! they say that too.

    How you doin' Pol?
    Done snowing?
    Doing well so far!

    It's cold, bubba, with a couple of inches of snow on the ground, and it's starting to flurry again! I wonder if we're in the path of that big storm that's headed this way just in time for Thanksgiving traveling! What are you doing for Thanksgiving?

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