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    Re: House To Vote On Bill That Would Impose $5,000 Fee For Protesting Drilling Projec

    Quote Originally Posted by MaggieD View Post
    What was the fee before? At first I was outraged. But it rather makes sense that there would be some cost to officially delaying a drilling project. I don't see it as a major barrier of free speech. It certainly costs money to file a lawsuit; same idea. A person/group can still express their opinions all they want...in press releases/conferences...the media. They just can't "officially delay" a project without incurring some costs. More I think about it, the more sense it makes.
    ... What about a $5,000 per gun tax to for gun manufacturers? Would you see that as a major barrier to purchasing guns?
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    Re: House To Vote On Bill That Would Impose $5,000 Fee For Protesting Drilling Projec

    All of you misunderstand what's going on here.

    It's not a fee to "protest," as in to carry a sign and shout, or speak out a rally against it. This isn't a parade permit.

    It's a fee to file an official protest against granting the drilling permit, as part of the permit process.

    It's not a "free speech" issue like you're making it out to be. It may be an excessive fee.
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    Re: House To Vote On Bill That Would Impose $5,000 Fee For Protesting Drilling Projec

    Quote Originally Posted by Hatuey View Post
    ... What about a $5,000 per gun tax to for gun manufacturers? Would you see that as a major barrier to purchasing guns?
    Bad analogy. In fact, terrible analogy.

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    Re: House To Vote On Bill That Would Impose $5,000 Fee For Protesting Drilling Projec

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    All of you misunderstand what's going on here.

    It's not a fee to "protest," as in to carry a sign and shout, or speak out a rally against it. This isn't a parade permit.

    It's a fee to file an official protest against granting the drilling permit, as part of the permit process.

    It's not a "free speech" issue like you're making it out to be. It may be an excessive fee.
    I agree with you. We're addressing something that's not likely to happen, though. The President has vowed to veto it should it pass both houses. House To Vote On Bill That Would Impose $5,000 Fee For Protesting Drilling Projects | ThinkProgress (Update at bottom of article.)

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    Re: House To Vote On Bill That Would Impose $5,000 Fee For Protesting Drilling Projec

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Read more @: House To Vote On Bill That Would Impose $5,000 Fee For Protesting Drilling Projects | ThinkProgress

    Wow... What a terrible bill. Not only does it put major barriers in place for us to practice our free speech, but it also destroys the environment, and make it a lot easier for energy companies to get access to once government protect land. Awful bill.
    Funny. The WikiPedia entry is nothing like what you are describing.
    The Federal Lands Jobs and Energy Security Act (H.R. 1965) is a bill that would require the Bureau of Land Management (BLM) to establish certain fees for activities related to the development of oil and gas on federal lands.[1] A portion of those amounts along with a portion of fees from renewable energy projects on federal lands would be available to the agency, subject to appropriation, to cover the costs of activities aimed at increasing energy development on federal lands. The bill also would exempt lawsuits related to energy production on federal lands from the Equal Access to Justice Act (EAJA). In addition, the legislation would require the BLM to offer for sale at least 25 percent of onshore federal lands nominated by firms for oil and gas leasing.[1] It was introduced in the United States House of Representatives during the 113th United States Congress. President Barack Obama threatened to veto the bill on November 19, 2013.[2]

    Provisions of the bill

    The goal of the bill is to make "it easier for oil and gas companies to obtain drilling permits on federal lands."[3] If this bill were to take effect, the United States Department of the Interior would then be forced to reject or approve onshore drilling permits within 60 days of the permit applications being submitted. If the Department fails to issue a ruling in that time window, the permit is automatically approved.[3]
    The bill would also make it more difficult for people to fight against drilling.[3] The bill would create a "$5,000 dollar fee to lodge a formal protest of leases or drilling permits awarded to oil and gas producers."[3][4]
    The bill would also establish a minimum amount of federal land that must be offered for oil-and-gas leases.[4]
    Federal Lands Jobs and Energy Security Act (H.R. 1965; 113th Congress) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Are you sure that this ThinkProgress web site isn't a satire site?

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    Re: House To Vote On Bill That Would Impose $5,000 Fee For Protesting Drilling Projec

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Funny. The WikiPedia entry is nothing like what you are describing.

    Federal Lands Jobs and Energy Security Act (H.R. 1965; 113th Congress) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Are you sure that this ThinkProgress web site isn't a satire site?
    Things would be so much easier if it was satire but, unfortunately, it's simply a mirror for what the progressive left wants for America.

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    Re: House To Vote On Bill That Would Impose $5,000 Fee For Protesting Drilling Projec

    Quote Originally Posted by Lutherf View Post
    Things would be so much easier if it was satire but, unfortunately, it's simply a mirror for what the progressive left wants for America.
    Oh, well that makes it a propaganda site then. One that's funded by that far left extremist Soros, if I'm not mistaken.

    Really need to stay away from those far left propaganda web sites. They are really no good for your sense of reality.

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    Re: House To Vote On Bill That Would Impose $5,000 Fee For Protesting Drilling Projec

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    Funny. The WikiPedia entry is nothing like what you are describing.

    Federal Lands Jobs and Energy Security Act (H.R. 1965; 113th Congress) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

    Are you sure that this ThinkProgress web site isn't a satire site?
    Here is the exact quote from the billl whic was linked in the ThinkProgress site: "(4) Protest Fee-
    "(A) In General- The Secretary shall collect a $5,000 documentation fee to accompany each protest for a lease, right of way, or application for permit to drill."
    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CRPT-11...rpt262-pt1.pdf


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    Re: House To Vote On Bill That Would Impose $5,000 Fee For Protesting Drilling Projec

    Quote Originally Posted by TheDemSocialist View Post
    Here is the exact quote from the billl whic was linked in the ThinkProgress site: "(4) Protest Fee-
    "(A) In General- The Secretary shall collect a $5,000 documentation fee to accompany each protest for a lease, right of way, or application for permit to drill."
    http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/CRPT-11...rpt262-pt1.pdf
    You don't think that is a fee that the drilling companies have to pay should they want to appeal the decision that denied them a permit?

    I think you're miss-reading that part of the bill. I don't think it has anything to do with ecomentalists protesting a site or permitting.

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    Re: House To Vote On Bill That Would Impose $5,000 Fee For Protesting Drilling Projec

    Quote Originally Posted by eohrnberger View Post
    You don't think that is a fee that the drilling companies have to pay should they want to appeal the decision that denied them a permit?

    I think you're miss-reading that part of the bill. I don't think it has anything to do with ecomentalists protesting a site or permitting.
    The bill is pretty black and white bud.


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