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    NY Post "cooked jobs numbers" story debunked, hard

    Last week, many conservatives on this site and around the interwebs gleefully chimed in on another "Obama scandal" -- this time, a New York Post column, based on an anonymous source and the confirmed chicanery of Census worker Julius Buckmon (story can be found here), alleged that the Census bureau cooked the jobs numbers in the run-up to the 2012 election, presumably to grease the skids for Obama's re-election.

    Turns out that Exhibit A in columnist John Cruedele's expose on chicanery at Census was ... well, calling it bull**** would be an insult to actual bull****.

    A bogus NY Post piece sets off a frenzy : Columbia Journalism Review

    The problem here is not that there’s no story, but that Crudele seriously overplays and distorts what he’s really got, turning a nugget of news into a blockbuster conspiracy exposé. It’s like if Woodward and Bernstein had skipped the years of legwork and just went with “NIXON HENCHMEN BURGLE DNC” the day after the Watergate burglary.

    But of course, Nixon’s henchmen did actually burgle the DNC. What Crudele has uncovered is not evidence—at all—of a political conspiracy—but a very minor story about a single Census employee filing fake household reports rather than doing the work of surveying the households.

    It turns out that the single Census employee Crudele found faking reports—Julius Buckmon—hasn’t worked for the Census since 2011, when, presumably, he was fired. That news came from CNBC’s Steve Leisman, and it moots the thesis of Crudele’s entire column.

    All he’s got after that is a single anonymous source saying the Census intentionally interfered with the election, and that doesn’t come close to cutting it, particularly since Crudele’s reporting in the rest of the piece is fatally flawed.
    But, of course, none of this matters. The right wing has jumped to conclusions without any facts (AGAIN), and now it's part of the right-wing zeitgeist that Obama ****ed around with the jobs numbers before the election.
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    Re: NY Post "cooked jobs numbers" story debunked, hard

    Is this opinion piece really supposed to mean anything?

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    Re: NY Post "cooked jobs numbers" story debunked, hard

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Is this opinion piece really supposed to mean anything?
    Which one is an "opinion piece"? The story that rightly points out that the NY Post story was complete bull****?
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    Re: NY Post "cooked jobs numbers" story debunked, hard

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Which one is an "opinion piece"? The story that rightly points out that the NY Post story was complete bull****?
    No offense but your link does absolutely nothing to discredit the post story. If you hurry you can just delete this silly thread.

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    Re: NY Post "cooked jobs numbers" story debunked, hard

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    No offense but your link does absolutely nothing to discredit the post story. If you hurry you can just delete this silly thread.
    It most certainly does! It points out that Julius Buckmon didn't work for the goddamn Census bureau anymore during the the time of the alleged "Faked" jobs report. It COMPLETELY DEBUNKS to the Post story.
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    Re: NY Post "cooked jobs numbers" story debunked, hard

    Bias forum is next one down, dude.

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    Re: NY Post "cooked jobs numbers" story debunked, hard

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    It most certainly does! It points out that Julius Buckmon didn't work for the goddamn Census bureau anymore during the the time of the alleged "Faked" jobs report. It COMPLETELY DEBUNKS to the Post story.
    Knowing that it is very easy to do and has, in fact, been done is surely enough to indicate that it is not impossible - as this opinion piece seems to wish to imply. Of course the employment figures could have changed in response to an offensive video reported on the web.
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    Therefore all progress depends on the unreasonable man.” ― George Bernard Shaw, Man and Superman

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    Re: NY Post "cooked jobs numbers" story debunked, hard

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    It most certainly does! It points out that Julius Buckmon didn't work for the goddamn Census bureau anymore during the the time of the alleged "Faked" jobs report. It COMPLETELY DEBUNKS to the Post story.
    Did the faked data exit the job with him?

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    Re: NY Post "cooked jobs numbers" story debunked, hard

    Quote Originally Posted by clownboy View Post
    Did the faked data exit the job with him?
    The "faked data" would have had approximately zero effect on a jobs report a year later, which is the premise of the story. The story heavily implies that Buckmon's data was flawed and affected the Sept. 2012 jobs report, and that the anonymous source says "there's many more like him."

    Well, we now know that Buckmon was long gone from Census by Sept. 2012. So now what we have is an anonymous source telling the columnist that Census is dicking with the jobs numbers.

    OK, now it's on the Post to prove that, and they failed hard at that.
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    Re: NY Post "cooked jobs numbers" story debunked, hard

    Quote Originally Posted by sawyerloggingon View Post
    Is this opinion piece really supposed to mean anything?
    It means that the census worker, Julius Buckmon didn't work for the Census Bureau at the time the employment rate was alledged to have been cooked. In short, the only witness has been debunked, discredited, quashed, invalidated, negated, exposed, booted out, kapooie.

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