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    Re: NY Post "cooked jobs numbers" story debunked, hard

    Quote Originally Posted by Thrilla View Post
    where are you getting this 10% numbner from?... it doesn't seem to be in any article... it seem to be something you are making up.

    what is established is that julius was creating people out of thin air and giving them jobs.....which would decrease the unemployment rate in his area ( not sure it would have much effect, if at all) on the national number
    I'm speaking hypothetically. The columnist is claiming that the falsely submitted forms definitely would have adjusted the rate downward, and that's not the case.
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    Re: NY Post "cooked jobs numbers" story debunked, hard

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    That's why I asked. How do you know that he can't help but mislead if you've read only two of his pieces and know as little as I do about him?
    He's not off to a very good start, OK? It's a bad first impression is all. Geez.
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    Re: NY Post "cooked jobs numbers" story debunked, hard

    Quote Originally Posted by nota bene View Post
    So you're familiar with his work? I didn't know anything about him, so I Googled. Found very little, so that would be great if you'd share what you know.
    the story is seen as negatively impacting the Obama administration( somehow)...and we all know how Democrats/liberals react to that sort of stuff..... facts be damned, they attack.

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    Re: NY Post "cooked jobs numbers" story debunked, hard

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    I'm speaking hypothetically. The columnist is claiming that the falsely submitted forms definitely would have adjusted the rate downward, and that's not the case.
    creating people out of thin air and giving them jobs will effect the rate downward... that's a given.

    are their scenarios where fabricating data could drive the rate upwards?..sure.... those scenarios weren't at play though.....well, according ot hte article anyways.... but meh, everything in the article is fake, so there ya go.

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    Re: NY Post "cooked jobs numbers" story debunked, hard

    Bah. As always, people who want to believe a story is true will believe it despite evidence to the contrary, and people who don't want to believe a story is true will disbelieve it despite evidence to the contrary. The vast majority of people look at any news story/event through the prism of partisan bias and will not change their opinion regardless of what contradictory evidence surfaces in the future.

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    Re: NY Post "cooked jobs numbers" story debunked, hard

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    He's not off to a very good start, OK? It's a bad first impression is all. Geez.
    So the "he can't help but mislead" was hyperbole.

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    Re: NY Post "cooked jobs numbers" story debunked, hard

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Last week, many conservatives on this site and around the interwebs gleefully chimed in on another "Obama scandal" -- this time, a New York Post column, based on an anonymous source and the confirmed chicanery of Census worker Julius Buckmon (story can be found here), alleged that the Census bureau cooked the jobs numbers in the run-up to the 2012 election, presumably to grease the skids for Obama's re-election.

    Turns out that Exhibit A in columnist John Cruedele's expose on chicanery at Census was ... well, calling it bull**** would be an insult to actual bull****.

    A bogus NY Post piece sets off a frenzy : Columbia Journalism Review



    But, of course, none of this matters. The right wing has jumped to conclusions without any facts (AGAIN), and now it's part of the right-wing zeitgeist that Obama ****ed around with the jobs numbers before the election.
    You jut posted someone opinion, and you failed to discredit the original story.

    And you started a thread and everything....
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    Re: NY Post "cooked jobs numbers" story debunked, hard

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    You jut posted someone opinion, and you failed to discredit the original story.

    And you started a thread and everything....
    The fact that the guy hasn't been at Census since 2011 and has nothing to do with any "book cooking" is decidedly not "someone's opinion." That's a fact, jack.
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    Re: NY Post "cooked jobs numbers" story debunked, hard

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    The fact that the guy hasn't been at Census since 2011 and has nothing to do with any "book cooking" is decidedly not "someone's opinion." That's a fact, jack.
    Everyone who had an ounce of integrity knew the jobs numbers, prior to the election were manipulated. I mean C'mon, it's Obama and the Democrats that we're talking about here.

    NOW the manipulations gone from miscalculations by complicit Census workers, to dishonest Liberals touting job growth as they ignore a near record drop in the Labor Participation Rate.

    One way or the other, the average Middle-class American is the one that gets to take it in the pants.
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    Re: NY Post "cooked jobs numbers" story debunked, hard

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Everyone who had an ounce of integrity knew the jobs numbers, prior to the election were manipulated. I mean C'mon, it's Obama and the Democrats that we're talking about here.

    NOW the manipulations gone from miscalculations by complicit Census workers, to dishonest Liberals touting job growth as they ignore a near record drop in the Labor Participation Rate.

    One way or the other, the average Middle-class American is the one that gets to take it in the pants.
    Has the clear ring of partisan bull****. Produce the links.

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