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    Re: Good news, California: Surplus is $2.4 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Perotista View Post
    We'll see, I will keep an eye looking west. But it sounds good so far.
    California is in the process of destroying a lot of small business trucking companies with the CARB truck and bus rule. Basically Jan 1 any truck older than 2007 better have a DPF filter or be off the road. It applies to out of state trucks as well that come to the state. The only exception for out of state truck will be a pass good once for only three days, that can only be had once a year. New trucks cost over 120,000. It looks good on the outside, its when you are inside that you see all the rotten stuff. The real fun has been all the rules changes in between when they started and now. CARB has managed to thoroughly muddy the waters nobody really knows what's going on.
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    Re: Good news, California: Surplus is $2.4 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I've been watching the political machine in Sacramento for over forty years now. Here is how it works during the past couple of decades.

    The Democrats in the State Legislature always spend more money than there is in the state's tax coffers.

    They always turn to the stupid gullible people of California and say we need more money, it's for the children, we have to raise taxes. And the stupid people of California believe the Democrats thinking it's for the children but it's not.

    The Democrats get their new taxes and they repeat spending more money than the state has and again the Democrats turn to the stupid people in California and tell them they need more money for the children and they must raise taxes. And the stupid people again believe the Democrats.

    Over and over and over it goes.

    That last increase in the sales tax and huge state income tax increase on a minority of the taxpayers, where did that money go ? Not to the children in schools but to the teachers union retirement fund and to give a pay raise to all of the union state workers.

    That surplus, it's already being spent. And soon Sacramento will be calling for new taxes and saying it's for the children.

    Jerry Brown has a track record of playing a shell game, he moves money around.

    Back when Jerry Brown was Governor during the late 70's and 80's, California had the best roads and highways in America. The tax coffers was getting low and Jerry Brown came up with an idea to get himself reelected. He needed to come up with a surplus. What he did was take the California gasoline tax that was solely used for maintaining California's roads, highways and bridges and had that money moved into the state's general fund. Then he told the gullible Californians look at my surplus. But look at California's state highways, roads and bridges today in California, some of the worse in the country.

    Watch what's next of the Democrats agenda, they are going to go after Prop 13.
    Prop 13 will be a tough nut to crack. That will get the Dems into serious trouble they screw with that.
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    Re: Good news, California: Surplus is $2.4 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    California is in the process of destroying a lot of small business trucking companies with the CARB truck and bus rule. Basically Jan 1 any truck older than 2007 better have a DPF filter or be off the road. It applies to out of state trucks as well that come to the state. The only exception for out of state truck will be a pass good once for only three days, that can only be had once a year. New trucks cost over 120,000. It looks good on the outside, its when you are inside that you see all the rotten stuff. The real fun has been all the rules changes in between when they started and now. CARB has managed to thoroughly muddy the waters nobody really knows what's going on.
    Now I understand, more EPA junk
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    Re: Good news, California: Surplus is $2.4 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    California is in the process of destroying a lot of small business trucking companies with the CARB truck and bus rule. Basically Jan 1 any truck older than 2007 better have a DPF filter or be off the road. It applies to out of state trucks as well that come to the state. The only exception for out of state truck will be a pass good once for only three days, that can only be had once a year. New trucks cost over 120,000. It looks good on the outside, its when you are inside that you see all the rotten stuff. The real fun has been all the rules changes in between when they started and now. CARB has managed to thoroughly muddy the waters nobody really knows what's going on.
    I heard some owners of some trucking companies based in California bitching about these new California regulations last weekend. One said it would cost $11,000 per vehicle to bring his tractors to California standards.

    They noticed that Mexican trucks that are driving on California's highways under NAFTA are exempt from these new regulations.

    It's like I have to drop a dime or go on the internet to find out if it's legal for me to put a log in the fireplace on that cold rainy night last night.

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    Re: Good news, California: Surplus is $2.4 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    I heard some owners of some trucking companies based in California bitching about these new California regulations last weekend. One said it would cost $11,000 per vehicle to bring his tractors to California standards.

    They noticed that Mexican trucks that are driving on California's highways under NAFTA are exempt from these new regulations.

    It's like I have to drop a dime or go on the internet to find out if it's legal for me to put a log in the fireplace on that cold rainy night last night.
    11,000????!!!!??? That's it? Holy **** I would love to know where they are getting their retrofits done. Mine and my contractors is gona set us back 17,000. We will be bitchin all the way.
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    Re: Good news, California: Surplus is $2.4 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by APACHERAT View Post
    Fort Ord seems to be on the wrong side of the tacks.

    So how has those great plans for Fort Ord turned out ?

    There sure were a lot of soldiers from California and other western states that did their basic at Fort Ord.

    I know Clint Eastwood served at Fort Ord and Jimi Hendrix did his basic training at Fort Ord. Everyone I know who was drafted did their basic at Fort Ord.
    Yeah, I enlisted and did Basic at Fort Ord. Somehow they managed to import chiggers, hasty little critters. And when it was nice and beautiful in Carmel, For Ord would be overcast, cold and windy. Never saw one celebrity at Fort Ord and was almost glad to be gone from the place, except my destination was not really better (DaNang).

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    Re: Good news, California: Surplus is $2.4 billion

    State Tax Revenues: Charts and Data

    You liberals are so funny. Article notes the surplus is due to spending less not taking in more revenue.
    In fact you might note above revenue is well off last year - hmm - even after tax increases. Funny main stream media doesn't tell us anything about that.

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    Re: Good news, California: Surplus is $2.4 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    Yes.I am the one that posted it.
    Then you should have read it before posting it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    the tax pulled the state outta its death spiral thank,s to Gov Brown.
    No it didn't, you're still in the death spiral AND you have a new permanent tax to pay. What's the sales tax up to now, 11, 12, 13%?

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    Whats wrong with education?
    Absolutely nothing, but that wasn't the point. The point is, you're all excited about this so-called surplus which comes from a supposedly temporary emergency tax and it turns out they're lying to you. The 2.4 billion surplus is actually a half billion dollar deficit because they have a 3.1 billion unfunded liabity with the schools. Hooray.

    Quote Originally Posted by Donc View Post
    Inspite of that the states credit rating has been upgraded.Amazing isn't it?
    Considering how deep in debt the state is I'm surprised your credit rating hasn't been changed downwards. You pretty much demonstrated as a state that you not only can't pay, but won't.

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    Re: Good news, California: Surplus is $2.4 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    Fact is, Reagan was a pragmatist.
    Fact is, he did what he needed to do to pull Cali out of the red.
    Just like Jerry Brown.
    Yeah, and neither managed to do it for real. CA taxpayers are bent over the table and for some reason still buying the big lies they're told.

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    Re: Good news, California: Surplus is $2.4 billion

    Quote Originally Posted by radioman View Post
    Hooray for Cali!!!
    Budget problems worked out with a combo of spending restraint and new revenues.
    This seems like great news.
    I expect the usual suspects will arrive momentarily to explain why this is really bad news.
    Its bad news for long term economic freedom in California, as high taxes hurt trade, but if California wants to have big govt and high taxes, thats their perogative. Hopefully, this means they can stop getting nearly 400 billion in federal tax money from the rest of country now.

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