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Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...

Carjosse

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No really they did in their new building code. The is apparently suppose to make new construction more accessible to handicapped people. It does only apply to new construction, old homes may keep their doorknobs.

From this CBC offbeat article.

I honestly don't know what to think about this.
 
Carjosse said:
No really they did in their new building code. The is apparently suppose to make new construction more accessible to handicapped people. It does only apply to new construction, old homes may keep their doorknobs.

From this CBC offbeat article.

I honestly don't know what to think about this.
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What's the problem?
 
Probably easier to open with mittens still on :shock:

I think if you want to do it on interiors, that is fine. I would think on exterior doors the levers would be easier to break open with a heavy hammer than a standard round door knob.
 
Carjosse said:
No really they did in their new building code. The is apparently suppose to make new construction more accessible to handicapped people. It does only apply to new construction, old homes may keep their doorknobs.

From this CBC offbeat article.

I honestly don't know what to think about this.
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"If you like your doorknob, you'll get to keep your doorknob!"
 
Carjosse said:
I honestly don't know what to think about this.
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And that's exactly what they want, for you not to think. Over time you'll accept it unquestioningly. Even praise it. Then the end will come, and even that, you will accept. The momentum is upon us. Some see it, some don't
 
Carjosse said:
No really they did in their new building code. The is apparently suppose to make new construction more accessible to handicapped people. It does only apply to new construction, old homes may keep their doorknobs.

I honestly don't know what to think about this.
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I have pretty severe arthritis in my wrists and thumbs, and I have been replacing all my old door knobs in my house with lever type knobs. It's so much nicer when it doesn't hurt to open a door.
I get it completely.
 
csense said:
And that's exactly what they want, for you not to think. Over time you'll accept it unquestioningly. Even praise it. Then the end will come, and even that, you will accept. The momentum is upon us. Some see it, some don't
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Getting awfully melodramatic over doorknobs, aren't we?
 
Buck Ewer said:
I have pretty severe arthritis in my wrists and thumbs, and I have been replacing all my old door knobs in my house with lever type knobs. It's so much nicer when it doesn't hurt to open a door.
I get it completely.
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But the question is, should everyone be required to install lever knobs because it's so much nicer for you? I personally think it's a bit of a stretch to justify. It sounds like something our own government would do.
 
csense said:
And that's exactly what they want, for you not to think. Over time you'll accept it unquestioningly. Even praise it. Then the end will come, and even that, you will accept. The momentum is upon us. Some see it, some don't
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As far as I know levered door knobs are no trouble for able-bodied people to deal with.
One day, if you live long enough, you too may have arthritis in your wrists and thumbs.
Then you will accept it as a good idea as well.
 
lizzie said:
But the question is, should everyone be required to install lever knobs because it's so much nicer for you? I personally think it's a bit of a stretch to justify. It sounds like something our own government would do.
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They aren't making millions of people retrofit their homes to accommodate this. New construction will have lever types, and homowners are still free to replace the levers with knobs.

So effin deal with it. It's not like you had any particular attachment to knobs before you read this article.
 
lizzie said:
But the question is, should everyone be required to install lever knobs because it's so much nicer for you? I personally think it's a bit of a stretch to justify. It sounds like something our own government would do.
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The code change is for new construction only. Whats wrong with levered knobs anyway?
New construction also calls for balusters to be less than four inches apart so kids won't get their heads stuck in between them. Why would that bother anyone without kids?
Like Kobie said "If you like your doorknob, you'll get to keep your doorknob!"
Building codes are designed to give us all a minimum requirement for standards and safety.
Architectural standards are evolving and changing all the time so that everyday life is better and predictably safe.
It's part of the fabric of civilization.
 
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I grew up in Surrey and I know there's too many doorknobs in Vancouver anyway.
 
apdst said:
Too much government is the problem.
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Don't you really mean too much civilization?
There are building codes about the minimum and maximum heights for stair risers and the width of treads so that stairs can be negotiated by old and young in a predictable and safe manner.
Is that too much government as well, or would you much rather have the freedom to build an unstable and unsafe house?
 
csense said:
And that's exactly what they want, for you not to think. Over time you'll accept it unquestioningly. Even praise it. Then the end will come, and even that, you will accept. The momentum is upon us. Some see it, some don't
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It's the doorknob apocalypse! Shove in a clip, sight in the gateway and bracket the artillery on the sidewalk.
 
Levered door handles have the distinct advantage of allowing you to open the door with your elbow while both hands are full.
Ya can't do that with spherical knobs.:mrgreen:
 
Deuce said:
They aren't making millions of people retrofit their homes to accommodate this. New construction will have lever types, and homowners are still free to replace the levers with knobs.

So effin deal with it. It's not like you had any particular attachment to knobs before you read this article.
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It's not as if I have any attachments to doorknobs now. I happen to think it' a stupid idea, but no surprise, since it's from government officials. If handicapped folks want levers, then let them buy their own effin levers, and have them installed, just as the rest of us do when we want something which suits our own tastes and desires.
 
csense said:
And that's exactly what they want, for you not to think. Over time you'll accept it unquestioningly. Even praise it. Then the end will come, and even that, you will accept. The momentum is upon us. Some see it, some don't
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Tinfoil hat time.
 
lizzie said:
It's not as if I have any attachments to doorknobs now. I happen to think it' a stupid idea, but no surprise, since it's from government officials. If handicapped folks want levers, then let them buy their own effin levers, and have them installed, just as the rest of us do when we want something which suits our own tastes and desires.
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Do you also think that smoke alarms and CO detectors mandated by "da gub-mint" for new construction are "stupid ideas"?
Or do you think that only people interested in staying alive should buy their own "effin'" alarms?
 
Buck Ewer said:
Do you also think that smoke alarms and CO detectors mandated by "da gub-mint" for new construction are "stupid ideas"?
Or do you think that only people interested in staying alive should buy their own "effin'" alarms?
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Yes. I have lived in numerous places without these features and miraculously enough, I am still here to talk about it. I think we are intelligent enough to know what we want, when we are building something for ourselves. I think it is ludicrous the government should be able to tell someone what type of door they can get.
 
Carjosse said:
No really they did in their new building code. The is apparently suppose to make new construction more accessible to handicapped people. It does only apply to new construction, old homes may keep their doorknobs.

From this CBC offbeat article.

I honestly don't know what to think about this.
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I could see doing this on public buildings, but to require it on private homes is over the line.
 
Doors often do violate code for commercial buildings as a fire safety matter.
 
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