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    Re: Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    Because your children don't have a say and we already decide that as a parent you have certain obligations to keep them safe/healthy. Also anyone who comes to visit will not know if you have built your house in a shoddy substandard way and you are putting their lives in danger as well. Again a something we have decided as a society that you really don't have the right to do.
    having said that the doorknob thing is just plain dumb.
    For a nation built on sovereign freedom, its become awfully pushy.
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    Re: Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...

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    I dont live next to anyone. Its my fricken house, on my land. I could care less about you or your house. Perhaps you should have insurance, or YOUR house up to snuff, or better yet have fire suppression equipment built into it.
    Insurance will do you a ****load of good when you and your family burn to death in your sleep because your built your house out of combustible building materials and decided that you didn't need those Orwellian smoke detectors.
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    Re: Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    For a nation built on sovereign freedom, its become awfully pushy.
    I never said they didn't go overboard with this but definitely you should have building codes. Don't forget most people do not actually build their own house anymore and there must be some assurance that the house they buy was built in a safe manner.
    IMHO I think you should never build to code, but should strive to build better than code. eg. Code calls for 5/8" plywood well go for 3/4" not a huge difference in price but a stronger building.
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    Re: Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Insurance will do you a ****load of good when you and your family burn to death in your sleep because your built your house out of combustible building materials and decided that you didn't need those Orwellian smoke detectors.
    Not to be nit picky but most houses are built of combustible materials. That doesn't mean you use highly flammable material however.
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    Re: Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Insurance companies don't all have the same requirements. There are reasons why there are mandated standards in the construction of buildings. Building codes are to protect public health, safety and general welfare as they relate to the construction and occupancy of buildings and structures. Building codes have been around for thousands of years for good reason
    Building codes haven't been around for thousands of years, at least in any wide spread fashion. So the insurance companies don't have the same requirements. So what? They have to cover for the loss. Building codes aren't for safety and the general welfare they are for insurance purposes ie reduce their expenses and risk. That don't have to inspect the dwelling and take on the risk the inspector may have missed something. A lot of public building inspectors are bought off anyhow. You will find most building codes were pushed by the insurance industry long before safety groups got involved.
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    Re: Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...

    Quote Originally Posted by HenryChinaski View Post
    Insurance will do you a ****load of good when you and your family burn to death in your sleep because your built your house out of combustible building materials and decided that you didn't need those Orwellian smoke detectors.
    You also presume I am going to build a ****ty house. News flash but there's more than a few construction methods that are against code but vastly superior to code. Same with building materials.
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    Re: Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...

    Quote Originally Posted by Quag View Post
    I never said they didn't go overboard with this but definitely you should have building codes. Don't forget most people do not actually build their own house anymore and there must be some assurance that the house they buy was built in a safe manner.
    IMHO I think you should never build to code, but should strive to build better than code. eg. Code calls for 5/8" plywood well go for 3/4" not a huge difference in price but a stronger building.
    The problem with a lot of building codes is you cant necessarily do what you just described. I am currently in the process of retrofitting a fire suppression system in my home with different type suppression methods in different areas. Problem is that aint kosher with the code people. Flexibility is NOT their nature. Mind you I am FAR exceeding code with even having a fire suppression system.
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    Re: Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    The problem with a lot of building codes is you cant necessarily do what you just described. I am currently in the process of retrofitting a fire suppression system in my home with different type suppression methods in different areas. Problem is that aint kosher with the code people. Flexibility is NOT their nature. Mind you I am FAR exceeding code with even having a fire suppression system.
    Again I agree they can go overboard but that doesn't change the fact that building codes are a good idea to have.
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    Re: Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Building codes haven't been around for thousands of years, at least in any wide spread fashion. So the insurance companies don't have the same requirements. So what? They have to cover for the loss. Building codes aren't for safety and the general welfare they are for insurance purposes ie reduce their expenses and risk. That don't have to inspect the dwelling and take on the risk the inspector may have missed something. A lot of public building inspectors are bought off anyhow. You will find most building codes were pushed by the insurance industry long before safety groups got involved.
    575 people were killed in the Iroquois theater fire because of structural deficiencies and lack of proper escape exits. Things that are mandated now. A lack of across the board common sense mandatory safety standard is idiocy.
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    Re: Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    You also presume I am going to build a ****ty house. News flash but there's more than a few construction methods that are against code but vastly superior to code. Same with building materials.
    I am in the process of designing my new house, please share this construction materials, methods and fire suppression systems that are not code but superior....

    thanks

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