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    Re: Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...

    Quote Originally Posted by Paratrooper View Post
    Should we also make them fire proof, waterproof, tornado proof, airplane crash proof, alien invasion proof, deterioration proof, violent attack proof, sure it would be mighty safe, just no one would be able to afford it. Maybe we should just mandate that everyone have a force field around their house.
    Its amazing the human race has survived for for thousands of years without these seemingly mandatory features.
    Just because someone thinks something is a good idea doesn't mean it should be mandatory.
    Emergency exits, fire curtains, fire alarms, smoke detectors and fire extinguishers in a movie theater are mandatory because they save lives. Not having those life saving precautions is irresponsible idiocy, and there are idiots out there that wouldn't have those common sense measures in place if they wern't enforced.

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    Re: Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...

    Quote Originally Posted by Paratrooper View Post
    Yet buildings have been built for thousands of years without these features. Since you think they are a good idea they should be mandatory?
    It wasn't that long ago that if someone wanted to go out and build themselves a house (log cabin or whatever) they could. Now one must navigate through a mountain of regulations before they can even lay the groundwork on a building they are paying for themselves?

    If the government wants to do this with public buildings so be it, if a man wants to build a house out of tires, mud, logs, cardboard, whatever, that should be his business.
    Yep, and if a person wanted a vegetable garden in their front yard they could do it, or a child could sell lemonade from the front lawn, or you could set up shop to cut people's hair without having to pay off the bureaucracy.

    But that was when we were free and uncivilized.

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    Re: Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Dear leader has already screwed up the privacy between you and your doctor. The government is interferinging marriage.

    Therein lies the difference between you and those of us who made America great. We want freedom for all, not just ourselves. We don't have to necessarilky agree with something to think the government should keep their hands off our rights. Once a government starts taking, it's damn hard to get it to stop. That's what Canada is dealing with.
    It's almost impossible to win those freedoms back once the bureaucracy gains power and takes hold. They can also ignore reform politicians knowing that they will eventually be out of office and they are forever.

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    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    Actually, your concept of freedom more resembles the Middle Age, not a modernvage. When your right to vote is no longer of convenience to the government, they'll take that from you, too and you'll just sit back and let them do it. Why? Because you value differently, in that you place less value on it.
    We created our own rights and protect them, we place the maximum value we can as we created them, we see them as the foundation of our democratic and free society. The government cannot take them away they are entrenched and even if that fails we have courts and other means to protect them. If we do not place reasonable limits upon rights and freedoms they are abused and lose their true meaning and purpose.

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    Re: Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...

    Quote Originally Posted by radcen View Post
    I could see doing this on public buildings, but to require it on private homes is over the line.
    I looked for that in the article and didnt see it...does it include residential new construction?
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    Re: Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...

    Quote Originally Posted by haymarket View Post
    One place told me that there was already the maximum amount of booze in the long island prepared mix in one drink. They actually pour it from a bottle that says LONG ISLAND TEA on it instead of pouring each shot individually the way they do here. A different place told me that they could do a double - although they said this like it was suppose to be a secret - and to tell the truth - I tasted no difference.

    One other thing - we go to Stratford Ontario every year for a few plays and I noticed that they have to use some special stuff in place of fertilizer for the grass. And that is also by law. Now it could be that they want to avoid water contamination with fertilizer run off - so there might be a societal reason for that. But drinks and getting your burgers the way you want em - well, that hurts nobody but the consumer who ingests it.
    Different provinces have different rules, even different cities have different rules

    20 years ago I could get triple vodka sevens on special for $4.00. The city (I believe it was a city bylaw, ensured that happy hour prices were not that cheap during the early 2000s. Public drunkenness being the issue. A few Indian reserves are dry reserves, of course I believe Utah is far more restrictive then all but the indian reserves in Canada when it comes to alcohol
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    Re: Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...

    Quote Originally Posted by Carjosse View Post
    We created our own rights and protect them, we place the maximum value we can as we created them, we see them as the foundation of our democratic and free society. The government cannot take them away they are entrenched and even if that fails we have courts and other means to protect them. If we do not place reasonable limits upon rights and freedoms they are abused and lose their true meaning and purpose.
    The government took away your right to choose what door latch you can put in your own home, you can!t by a double Crown and Coke and you can't get your hamburger cooked the way you want...you'll gladly give up any right the government asks you too, without any resistance.
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    Re: Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The government took away your right to choose what door latch you can put in your own home, you can!t by a double Crown and Coke and you can't get your hamburger cooked the way you want...you'll gladly give up any right the government asks you too, without any resistance.
    I don't know I can do all those things.

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    Re: Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    Yep, and if a person wanted a vegetable garden in their front yard they could do it, or a child could sell lemonade from the front lawn, or you could set up shop to cut people's hair without having to pay off the bureaucracy. But that was when we were free and uncivilized.
    More CONvoluted history I see. First off it isn't the 'gubmint' or the bureaucracy that wants vegatable gardens in the back yard where historically 'kitchen gardens' were done. Nor the bad ol' folks up in the dreaded Ivory Tower not wanting the traffic blockage in residential areas from in home businesses open to the public. (There is a reason for zoning ordinances- parking being one of them)

    It was your neighbors, your fellow citizens who got tired of the mess in your front yard, the clogged side streets, the junker cars in the front yard of a 'backyard mechanic'. The other barber shops maintaining a store front to conduct business were the ones wanting competition to 'pay-off' the bureaucracy.

    In short it was WE the PEOPLE who got tired of your mess...

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    Re: Vancouver Bans Doorknobs...

    Quote Originally Posted by apdst View Post
    The government took away your right to choose what door latch you can put in your own home, you can!t by a double Crown and Coke and you can't get your hamburger cooked the way you want...you'll gladly give up any right the government asks you too, without any resistance.
    More CON no-sense. The goverment also took away your 'right' to park near the store's door by putting in those pesky handicapped spots...

    I'd say back in the 'good ol' days' you had no choice in doorknobs... they were all round

    Poor CONs can't get drunker faster by buying doubles in public! The agony of that! Stay home and drink the Crown straight from the bottle!

    You get LOTS of choices in hamburgers, just not raw... again in your own home eat that ground meat straight from the tube!

    But the true CON no-sense is thinking IF ya can't get double alcohol in one glass or raw burgers you have given up a 'right'.

    As CONs are quick to point out about other issues- show me where in the Constitution a restaurant must serve raw meat or a bar has to serve you liquor with a splash of mixer?

    NO THING the CONs are ranting about are a right.... more a whim.

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