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    Re: 'Gay' columnist blasts same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    You'll have to show where interracial marriages are as old as the hills. Also, you'll have to show why the state should have a stake in making gay marriage illegal. And please don't say it's for the children, gays can raise children WITHOUT being married.
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    Re: 'Gay' columnist blasts same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Well, at risk of not impressing you, I'm not going to go out of my way to impress you.

    I've repeatedly said I support civil unions, have never argued against them and have never not voted for someone solely based on their support of civil unions. I have discussed support of civil unions at local political meetings...both Democrat and Republican. So, beleive what you like. It's my opinion that regardless of your personal opinion on gay marriage, there is nothing in the constitution that bans any two consenting people from entering into a marriage-like relationship.
    You are on record for it. That is something. But I still wonder if you would be "for" civil unions if people were not seeking same sex marriage.
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    Re: 'Gay' columnist blasts same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    Interracial marriages are as old as the hills. It is only for a brief period, mainly in the US, where interracial marriage was a particular concern.
    Really? Where?
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    I have felt pain when I was in the womb. So when you say they are incapable of feeling pain, that is based on junk science.
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    Re: 'Gay' columnist blasts same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    There are very few instances in the history of human civilization where same sex marriages were legally sanctioned. And for the most part, where they were, it was for a very brief time.
    You didnt answer the question (nothing new for you). If the definition can change for race or numbers, why not gender?

    How is redefining on that basis any different?
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    Re: 'Gay' columnist blasts same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    You are on record for it. That is something. But I still wonder if you would be "for" civil unions if people were not seeking same sex marriage.
    I would be. Mainly based on the legal ramifications.
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    Re: 'Gay' columnist blasts same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Lursa View Post
    You didnt answer the question (nothing new for you). If the definition can change for race or numbers, why not gender?
    I did answer the question, just not the way you liked.

    How is redefining on that basis any different?
    It completely redefines the intstitution of marriage, whether you liked the original definition or not.
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    Re: 'Gay' columnist blasts same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    I did answer the question, just not the way you liked.

    It completely redefines the intstitution of marriage, whether you liked the original definition or not.

    OK, then changing it for bi-racial marriage and eliminating multiple spouses redefined it too. So it's nothing new and esp nothing new in recent history.

    We already acknowledge redefining marriage to accommodate a changing society. There ya go. Thank you. My bad...I liked your answer just fine.
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    Re: 'Gay' columnist blasts same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by Oftencold View Post
    Look up the norms for child rearing in Colonial America if you believe me not, an consider that adults that resulted then.
    Uneducated racists with bad teeth?

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    Re: 'Gay' columnist blasts same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by mac View Post
    It completely redefines the intstitution of marriage, whether you liked the original definition or not.
    Birth control redefined the institution. Same sex marriage was just the wake up call to conservatives that the world had changed and ideas about socially designated gender norms had changed.
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    Re: 'Gay' columnist blasts same-sex marriage

    Quote Originally Posted by CriticalThought View Post
    Birth control redefined the institution. Same sex marriage was just the wake up call to conservatives that the world had changed and ideas about socially designated gender norms had changed.
    I think your ignoring the difference between "had changed" and "attempting to change".
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