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    The Truth about Navigators

    Today at National Review Online, John Fund, a contributor, has the undercover footage collected by James O'Keefe exposing corruption at multiple levels in the process of signing up for Obamacare.





    Michael Astrue served as commissioner of Social Security until earlier this year, and in the 1990s served as general counsel for HHS. He wrote in The Weekly Standard last month that he is genuinely frightened of the lax security surrounding the Obamacare website, and the fact that navigators will access the federal data hub to help people enroll:


    HHS opened the door to large-scale fraud by providing funding for tens of thousands of “navigators”—people who are supposed to persuade the uninsured to apply for coverage and then assist them in the application process. Instead of hiring well-screened, well-trained, and well-supervised workers, HHS decided to build political support for the Affordable Care Act by pouring money into supportive organizations so they could launch poorly trained workers into their communities without obtaining criminal background checks or creating systems for monitoring their activities.
    The article touches on the real concerns over security of the applicants. The undercover video is shocking showing navigators encouraging applicants to lie on their applications to keep their premiums down. It also exposes those "supportive organizations" that are suppose to be non-partisan are actually appendages of the Democrat party.

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    oh no, I dont think I can take it again...
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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Today at National Review Online, John Fund, a contributor, has the undercover footage collected by James O'Keefe exposing corruption at multiple levels in the process of signing up for Obamacare. The article touches on the real concerns over security of the applicants. The undercover video is shocking showing navigators encouraging applicants to lie on their applications to keep their premiums down. It also exposes those "supportive organizations" that are suppose to be non-partisan are actually appendages of the Democrat party.

    The Truth about Navigators | National Review Online
    But how could it be otherwise? Of course this is going to happen because results and actual health care are not what's important, it is the ideology.

    When government money is being dispersed without any safeguards in areas where cost is not a factor, of course there is going to be fraud and abuse. No one really cares anymore because it's always someone elses money which is being spent so why not get on the bandwagon? Of course the ideologists will deny all of this and continue to make excuses for all these tax dollars disappearing but reality has a way of circling in sooner or later.

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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

    Quote Originally Posted by mak2 View Post
    oh no, I dont think I can take it again...
    Mak2 I just discovered Trfjr's thread in General Political discussion. sorry Hey it's a pretty important story or should be to every taxpayer and healthcare applicant.

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    I wasnt picking on you, I know it is hard to keep track of who started what. Just trying to be funny.
    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Mak2 I just discovered Trfjr's thread in General Political discussion. sorry Hey it's a pretty important story or should be to every taxpayer and healthcare applicant.
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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Mak2 I just discovered Trfjr's thread in General Political discussion. sorry Hey it's a pretty important story or should be to every taxpayer and healthcare applicant.

    Indeed it is Vesper. Notice where all those ACORN members keep showing up as. Obama-Navigators. Moreover due to the Cloud.....there are hackers who have already set **** up on their site. Just waiting for it all to begin again. Security of the Peoples Information is going to be an issue Obama isn't going to be able to run away from.

    Any that get hacked now.....need to bring it front and center, so we can watch Obama and the Democrats hang their heads. Knowing their Ponzi scheme is going to fail. From your piece.


    Records show that the National Urban League was paid $376,000 by the federal government for its Obamacare outreach in Texas.

    As a practical matter, these navigators are unaccountable, and yet they will be asking people for Social Security numbers and other sensitive information. It will not take long for navigators to become predators, and HHS has no plan to deal with the new breed of predators it is creating. The somnolent HHS inspector general has been silent about this scheme that will inflict widespread fraud and identity theft on vulnerable Americans.

    Finally, we should all remember that the Minnesota exchange illegally disclosed the Social Security numbers of 2,400 of its state’s citizens 18 days before its exchange opened for business. With HHS’s convoluted patchwork of contractors, including the data centers of “the cloud,” tens of thousands of people have now gained access to our personal data.

    In Texas, some of those people work for Local 100 United Labor Unions, a New Orleans group run by ACORN founder Wade Rathke. Local 100 is a “sub-grantee” providing navigators for the Southern United Neighborhoods group, which received a $600,678 grant to promote Obamacare enrollment. It also received a $270,193 grant for similar work in Arkansas and a $486,123 grant for Louisiana. Marcel Reid, a former dissident board member of ACORN who broke with the group in 2008 over its questionable practices, told me earlier this year, “ACORN is forming new groups under new mismanagement, and if Wade Rathke is involved in any of them, it spells trouble.”

    The law’s problems are coming from more sides than a pentadecagon. But one of the most serious things undermining its credibility is the Obama administraion’s seemingly complete indifference to corruption within one of the key groups tasked with its implementation. We’ll have to see just how much worse it gets.....snip~

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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

    Does anybody know what a "Navigator" gets paid? What training they get?

    Seems like they just rounded up a bunch of people, typical overweight and not very smart government worker types and turned them loose.

    OTOH, where would you hire experienced navigators? We'd have to outsource to India.

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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

    Democrats are soooo good at running something, especially with a community organizer as the CEO.
    Liberals - Punish the Successful, Reward the Unsuccessful
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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Democrats are soooo good at running something, especially with a community organizer as the CEO.
    Yeah, but with no commendations from any community he claimed to have organized. In fact his his resume never included skills at organizing anything, anywhere, at anytime, it seems.

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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

    Quote Originally Posted by Grant View Post
    But how could it be otherwise? Of course this is going to happen because results and actual health care are not what's important, it is the ideology.

    When government money is being dispersed without any safeguards in areas where cost is not a factor, of course there is going to be fraud and abuse. No one really cares anymore because it's always someone elses money which is being spent so why not get on the bandwagon? Of course the ideologists will deny all of this and continue to make excuses for all these tax dollars disappearing but reality has a way of circling in sooner or later.
    And there's the long and the short of it. There has to be a total cluster****, so Obama can claim he had no idean, fein outrage and appear to be the big hero when he comes to the rescue.
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    At least Bill saved his transgressions for grown women. Not suggesting what he did was OK. But he didn't chase 14 year olds.

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