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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    My hunch is when January 2014 gets here and more mandates go into effect is when those who currently get their insurance through their employers many will start to receive termination slips starting in December 2013 on their employer provided coverage forcing them onto subsidized exchange policies. That's when the sh!t is really going to hit the fan. By that time people will be so outraged and their representatives will know it. I don't think it would be a stretch at all at that point to find 2/3 of Congress willing to over-ride an Obama veto.
    Well, and then those deductibles' prices will go up. Which then not getting any money from 18-26 years old is going to come into play too.

    Then those opting out to pay the fine will look to hold off on paying that until no longer. Which half of them will have to be found. Being young and renting and moving in and out of states 3 or 4 times. Wont make it easy on those Feds. So more money they will be out of that Team Obama was counting on.

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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    My hunch is when January 2014 gets here and more mandates go into effect is when those who currently get their insurance through their employers many will start to receive termination slips starting in December 2013 on their employer provided coverage forcing them onto subsidized exchange policies. That's when the sh!t is really going to hit the fan. By that time people will be so outraged and their representatives will know it. I don't think it would be a stretch at all at that point to find 2/3 of Congress willing to over-ride an Obama veto.
    Oh hush, you're getting me too giddy. LOL

    I just hope there isn't some magic ace up Obama's sleeve. My gut is that he doesn't understand and didn't read the thing, and therefore is getting caught flat-footed by the whole debacle. My fear is that this is part of a master strategy to muck up the system so badly, that's it's rendered irreversible, and he then forces single payer down our throats.

    One things for sure, his legacy is this ill-conceived travesty, and he's stamping his ticket alongside the worst presidents in our history.

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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Oh hush, you're getting me too giddy. LOL

    I just hope there isn't some magic ace up Obama's sleeve. My gut is that he doesn't understand and didn't read the thing, and therefore is getting caught flat-footed by the whole debacle. My fear is that this is part of a master strategy to muck up the system so badly, that's it's rendered irreversible, and he then forces single payer down our throats.

    One things for sure, his legacy is this ill-conceived travesty, and he's stamping his ticket alongside the worst presidents in our history.
    Obama and the ringleaders of this boondoggle knew exactly what they were designing and that was to force us onto single payer system but to gain support for Obamacare they couldn't sell it that way and had to use deceptive measures. But what was that famous line from Obama's preacher man Wright? "The chickens have come home to roost."

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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    I doubt he'll ever lose his seat. Reid and Pelosi are a true axis of evil.....I really think there is more hate and corruption in their two minds, than the rest of the government (including Obama).
    : "it takes one to know one" probably applies here. Obama apparently recognized the same nasty traits, so he put them in charge of writing and getting Obamacare passed! We saw the supreme height of arrogance when Pelosi made her now infamously absurd statement about "passing it in order to know what was in it!" If I weren't living it, I wouldn't believe it! And she thought it was so cute that she was grinning when she said it! I really do dislike that woman! Really...

    If it weren't for the misery this is causing millions of people, I'd be very happy watching how many Dems are now anxious about losing their jobs because they voted for this mess.....and I'm not usually a mean person. In this case, however, I'm willing to make an exception! :

    Greetings, American.

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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    Obama and the ringleaders of this boondoggle knew exactly what they were designing and that was to force us onto single payer system but to gain support for Obamacare they couldn't sell it that way and had to use deceptive measures. But what was that famous line from Obama's preacher man Wright? "The chickens have come home to roost."
    Therein lies the beauty in this. This "master plan" to move us into a single payer system is off to such a rocky start, it might actually doom the single payer plan forever.

    People on both sides are now genuinely scared of this guy, and the government. They trust nothing coming from him now.

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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Therein lies the beauty in this. This "master plan" to move us into a single payer system is off to such a rocky start, it might actually doom the single payer plan forever.

    People on both sides are now genuinely scared of this guy, and the government. They trust nothing coming from him now.
    I'm no way convinced the left side of the aisle is scared of Obama. What they are scared of is being exposed as hypocrites. Maybe there really is a silver lining in dark clouds. It certainly would be true if this mess somehow derailed the idea of single payer ever again.

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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

    Quote Originally Posted by Erod View Post
    Oh hush, you're getting me too giddy. LOL

    I just hope there isn't some magic ace up Obama's sleeve. My gut is that he doesn't understand and didn't read the thing, and therefore is getting caught flat-footed by the whole debacle. My fear is that this is part of a master strategy to muck up the system so badly, that's it's rendered irreversible, and he then forces single payer down our throats.

    One things for sure, his legacy is this ill-conceived travesty, and he's stamping his ticket alongside the worst presidents in our history.
    Dennis Miller made the observation that rather than calling the debacle Obamacare it should be called BarrackObamacare so that it will be remembered under his name through US history..

    Miller: Obama, 'if you liked your apology, you can keep it' | The Daily Caller

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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

    Quote Originally Posted by vesper View Post
    I'm no way convinced the left side of the aisle is scared of Obama. What they are scared of is being exposed as hypocrites. Maybe there really is a silver lining in dark clouds. It certainly would be true if this mess somehow derailed the idea of single payer ever again.
    What really should concern them is voting for legislation of which they had no knowledge. This 'pass it to know whats in it' craziness should haunt these people forever and be taught in civics class as to how not to pass legislation. It is a real mystery why supposedly responsible people behaved this way and why any electorate would support it.

    Passing laws in the dark? That is a new low for any democracy.

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