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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin Vesper. I was going to ask is that on top of the money they received from Team Obama for the grants.

    You mean Obamabots will be coming to Ring my DoorBell? That ought to prove interesting. So if they trespass.....does this mean we can start reducing their numbers legally? .....
    Good Mornin MMC
    There have been reports in a couple of different states where people were going door to door asking to assist people in signing up Some of the groups that have received navigator funds include United Way programs, the Urban League, Mental Health America, the National Hispanic Council on Aging, and various universities and Planned Parenthood groups. Some newspapers have reported you might even encounter them sitting at a table at your pharmacy or grocery store offering to assist a person in signing up. I have no knowledge of their pay scale only they receive $58.00 for each person they assist in enrolling.

    Today it is being reported that due to the video, one navigator was fired and three others suspended. I think what they were caught doing amounts to a federal offense so where are the charges?

    One fired, three suspended after undercover health care video - Dallas News | myFOXdfw.com

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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

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    Good question. The answer is no. Number one, they are not licensed insurance agents. Number two, they don't carry errors and omissions insurance. Number three, the navigators or organizations that receive the grants, are not performing background checks on the individuals that are going to have access to personal, identifiable information. Number four, these folks are allowed to go door to door like a Fuller Brush man or Avon Lady or the Girl Scouts selling cookies, trying to sign people up for insurance. Ain't it special?
    If they come to my door, they're probably hopelessly lost. If they do find it, they'd better have a free gift - like a can opener, a toaster oven, steak knives, a cap snaffler - something. I want some free stuff just for listening to their schtick. Of course, if that person is truly a navigator and they're hopelessly lost, ahhhh...

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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

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    If they come to my door, they're probably hopelessly lost. If they do find it, they'd better have a free gift - like a can opener, a toaster oven, steak knives, a cap snaffler - something. I want some free stuff just for listening to their schtick. Of course, if that person is truly a navigator and they're hopelessly lost, ahhhh...


    But you bring up a key point and that being "if that person is truly a navigator". And it just goes to show how this program on so many levels is ripe for fraud.

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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

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    But you bring up a key point and that being "if that person is truly a navigator". And it just goes to show how this program on so many levels is ripe for fraud.
    No kidding. If it wasn't so inane, inept, criminal and corrupt, it might be actually funny. "Navigator" my ass. Just how in the hell does one "navigate" a broken site? I look forward to more leaks as the dems up for election next year try to hide behind something - anything - distinct and separate from that target that the ACA has become.

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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

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    But you bring up a key point and that being "if that person is truly a navigator". And it just goes to show how this program on so many levels is ripe for fraud.
    That's okay.....my dog can smell Obamabaloney from the street. That's at least 70 yards from my door minimum.


    Wonder if I can find an Old Bush sign to throw out on the Lawn.....do you think that might be a clue for them?

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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

    Quote Originally Posted by humbolt View Post
    If they come to my door, they're probably hopelessly lost. If they do find it, they'd better have a free gift - like a can opener, a toaster oven, steak knives, a cap snaffler - something. I want some free stuff just for listening to their schtick. Of course, if that person is truly a navigator and they're hopelessly lost, ahhhh...
    Mornin HB. Myself.....I would only accept one of those Gold Obama Coins. Might be worth something after he has moved on to pasture.

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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

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    That's okay.....my dog can smell Obamabaloney from the street. That's at least 70 yards from my door minimum.


    Wonder if I can find an Old Bush sign to throw out on the Lawn.....do you think that might be a clue for them?


    That just might work or maybe a sign supporting the NRA would do nicely too.

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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

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    Mornin HB. Myself.....I would only accept one of those Gold Obama Coins. Might be worth something after he has moved on to pasture.
    I'm with you on that. We need to start sending in suggestions to the administration to help them out with this thing. We've been laughing at the North Koreans for years with their multi- stage missile failures on the launch pad. I can just imagine the hoots over there now over our failure to launch a stinking web site. Looks like they won't be able to meet that November deadline now. Awww....

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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

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    Evening Middleground, no ****ing kidding going on and if you want to see who has really been deceived, look in a mirror.

    This damn thing is worse than a train wreck filled with corruption and deceit. Some in the Republican party want to just let it implode on its own thinking it would be a political advantage to do so. I don't want to see more people get hurt by allowing this boondoggle to continue and would like to see it shut down before more people lose their coverage or risk having their privacy hacked. Even you.
    The "willful' are not deceived. They are complicit. They get told they are going to get a sandwich and say goody! Then when given the sandwich they find out is a **** sandwich and say..."oh...ummm...yummy! **** sandwiches are my FAVORITE! You are just jealous because you dont have a **** sandwich. Im going to have ANOTHER **** sandwich I like it so much!"

    This whole thing is a top down debacle. The only people that refuse to see that are the willful "true believers". Many democrats see it. Many left leaning journalists see it. But not the willful. There are already recorded instances of the sole individual that enrolled for this garbage in one state having his info hacked and being scammed within hours of signing up. Wrong/false information is being connected to peoples records. Its obvious there are groups using this for partisan political gain. In many cases felons have been hired as navigators with access to every bit of personal information an individual possesses. No background checks at all done in some states. Obvious fraud being perpetrated in others. But the willful...they see nothing. They hear nothing.Well...they have a good role model at least.

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    Re: The Truth about Navigators

    I just don't understand how anyone can support this. Forget the website, the policy cancellations, the broken promises from Obama.....

    Does anything think this is going to be anything but a massive cluster**** forever?

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