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Texas Scientists Given Green Light To Use Sex Offenders For Medical Research

danarhea said:
First of all, I don't know how accurate this report is, but if it is true, then we have a problem here. Yes, child molesters and other sex predators are the scum of the earth but, as despicable as these people are, we still have a Constitution that forbids cruel and unusual punishment, even for scum like this.

Castrate 'em? I'm OK with that. But to force them into medical experiments is beyond anything that could even be considered remotely civilized. Are we a nation of laws, or a nation of savages? That, my friends, is the 64 thousand dollar question. Yes, revenge is nice. I would love those punks to suffer immensely, but what price am I willing to pay for that? The loss of my own humanity? My answer to that question is a resounding NO!!

Finally, while evaluating this thread, consider the source, as to whether this is really true or not. But either way, this is a very interesting question, and I am sure that we are going to get some very interesting answers in this thread. So what say you?

Article is here.
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I most certainly hope the article is fake. Unless the prisoners volunteer for such experimentation, it would be completely unconstitutional. Dr. Mengele anybody. I doubt any self respecting researcher would go to work at such a facility.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
This article is a joke. Note the wording of "costs millions to persecute..." and other clues about how these "scum" are described.

See link: snopes.com: Texas Scientists Given Green Light to Use Sex Offenders for Medical Research

That aside, it would be likely be possible to get prisoner volunteers to do this. I doubt that anyone would take the risk of these folks escaping but the prison situation, if left in general population, for sex offenders is not good. I would imagine that using non-violent prisoners as volunteers, perhaps in exchange for added "good time" towards their parole date would be possible.
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If it was me I would offer it to those sentenced to death or to life without parole first. Then go down the list. Non violent offenders would be last. I would also sweeten the pot for the volunteers if they take on particularly disfiguring or dangerous experiments. No active recruiting just put a notice out and full disclosure of exactly what may happen.
 
AGENT J said:
support it? no
use it as an option? yes

personally i support the death penalty be extended to these types of offenders more often and instead of death or life id be ok with this being an option i guess.

Be awesome to bring back public stoning and castration for these monsters though :)
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Personally I am against the death penalty. I am however perfectly fine with giving said convict a honorable way out by handing them a knife at the end of sentencing and allowing them to take their own life. If they didn't want to do that they could decide to participate in experiments, and earn redemption that away. Otherwise warehousing them till they die is perfectly acceptable to me. I just believe that humans in prison ought to be given the opportunity to redeem themselves via participating in very dangerous and debilitating experiments and other necessary actions like say entering hot radiological zones to do something that needs doing. I would make it completely voluntary and unrecruited.
 
PirateMk1 said:
1.)Personally I am against the death penalty.
2.) I am however perfectly fine with giving said convict a honorable way out by handing them a knife at the end of sentencing and allowing them to take their own life.
3.) If they didn't want to do that they could decide to participate in experiments, and earn redemption that away.
4.) Otherwise warehousing them till they die is perfectly acceptable to me.
5.) I just believe that humans in prison ought to be given the opportunity to redeem themselves via participating in very dangerous and debilitating experiments and other necessary actions like say entering hot radiological zones to do something that needs doing.
6.) I would make it completely voluntary and unrecruited.
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1.) no biggie, to each their own but im definitely for it, im in favor of expanding the option more uniformly actually to child molestation and rape.
2.) also im fine with this too, in fact i dont see a reason to put these guys on suicide watch
3.) I agree with this
4.) im not against life in prison just definitely think death penalty should be an option for some crimes and I hate the idea that at time criminals live better than free people and even soldiers at time as far as shelter and food goes
5.) im fine with that too
6.) i would do the same
 
danarhea said:
Finally, while evaluating this thread, consider the source, as to whether this is really true or not.
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Here's what the Wikipedia has to say about this source:

National Report (nationalreport.net) is a satirical website devoted to often subtle parodies of real news which convince the unwary. It is published by Allen Montgomery.

Among headline-generating spoofs are a report that Arizona's governor Jan Brewer intended to introduce mandatory gay-to-straight conversion courses into the state's public school system, and a report that fooled researchers at Fox News Channel, in which the President was purported to have announced his intention to spend his own money to keep a Muslim museum open during a government shutdown. Another report that fooled people in Wyoming claimed that a man in Hanna, Wyoming was the first recipient of a RFID chip which, the report claimed, was part of an Obamacare pilot program. A report published by National Report on November 2, 2013 claiming a fictitious Assam Rape Festival created a furore [sic] in Indian national media.​

The actual Wikipedia article is in poor shape, at this point, but it does link to some good sources that pretty much confirm the gist of it. I happened to have occasion to look this up earlier, because elsewhere, I'd seen a link to the “Assam Rape Festival” story, and following links from there to other stories on the same site led me to wonder about the nature of this site as a whole.
 
AGENT J said:
1.) no biggie, to each their own but im definitely for it, im in favor of expanding the option more uniformly actually to child molestation and rape.
2.) also im fine with this too, in fact i dont see a reason to put these guys on suicide watch
3.) I agree with this
4.) im not against life in prison just definitely think death penalty should be an option for some crimes and I hate the idea that at time criminals live better than free people and even soldiers at time as far as shelter and food goes
5.) im fine with that too
6.) i would do the same
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I can understand however for me its about how they are sent to prison, case in point the prosecutor/ judge that was sentenced to 10 days for withholding evidence in case. Who else did he screw? Then there is the prosecutor from the Duke lacrosse case. How about the Zimmerman trial and all the prosecutorial bs that went on there? 90% of convictions are plea deals. How many of those plea deals were told to take the deal because they were looking at even more time and would likely be convicted despite being innocent. One case that comes to mind for me is the case that happened here in Kern county a while back http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kern_County_child_abuse_cases.Its not nearly as cut and dried as we would like it. If it was I would be right there with you. Until we reform the prosecutorial system I would rather err on the side of caution.
 
PirateMk1 said:
1.)I can understand however for me its about how they are sent to prison, case in point the prosecutor/ judge that was sentenced to 10 days for withholding evidence in case. Who else did he screw?
2.) Then there is the prosecutor from the Duke lacrosse case. How about the Zimmerman trial and all the prosecutorial bs that went on there?
3.) 90% of convictions are plea deals. How many of those plea deals were told to take the deal because they were looking at even more time and would likely be convicted despite being innocent.
4.)One case that comes to mind for me is the case that happened here in Kern county a while back http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kern_County_child_abuse_cases.Its not nearly as cut and dried as we would like it. If it was I would be right there with you. Until we reform the prosecutorial system I would rather err on the side of caution.
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1.) now this i agree 100% it is an legit issue, i should have been more clear, while i fully support the death penalty and favor its expansion im also totally for improving the process and making it more concrete.
Combination of Video, DNA, confession etc or something like that
2.) i agree with this stuff but i want the process fixed not the punishments lightened or lessened.
3.) "despite being "innocent" in todays world? id guess not many but again this has nothing to do with death penalty
4.) well thats what needs done, improvement to the system but i keep it running

and to be honest i would bring back a public version of executions, the deterrent is more powerful when it can be seen or is seen, the reality sinks in even deeper.
 
PirateMk1 said:
If it was me I would offer it to those sentenced to death or to life without parole first. Then go down the list. Non violent offenders would be last. I would also sweeten the pot for the volunteers if they take on particularly disfiguring or dangerous experiments. No active recruiting just put a notice out and full disclosure of exactly what may happen.
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As I noted, the chances that extremely violent offenders would be used is slim. The risk (to staff) involved with these folks is extreme since they have absolutely nothung to lose and they can never be released.
 
ttwtt78640 said:
As I noted, the chances that extremely violent offenders would be used is slim. The risk (to staff) involved with these folks is extreme since they have absolutely nothung to lose and they can never be released.
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Non violent offenders would be pointless to offer as they will likely not take up the offer, mainly because they have much shorter sentences and the comparative risk is immense.

I would sweeten the pot and say if they A) comply with all directives and B) volunteer for the nasty potentially lethal and or disfiguring experiments they can get significant time off their sentence. Ie a chance for parole and or a less than life term. The more they participate the more time comes off. Basically if they want a chance to see daylight without bars they become a human guinea pig. That may make them much more amiable to be cooperative.
 
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