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    Re: Texas Scientists Given Green Light To Use Sex Offenders For Medical Research

    Quote Originally Posted by AGENT J View Post
    1.) no biggie, to each their own but im definitely for it, im in favor of expanding the option more uniformly actually to child molestation and rape.
    2.) also im fine with this too, in fact i dont see a reason to put these guys on suicide watch
    3.) I agree with this
    4.) im not against life in prison just definitely think death penalty should be an option for some crimes and I hate the idea that at time criminals live better than free people and even soldiers at time as far as shelter and food goes
    5.) im fine with that too
    6.) i would do the same
    I can understand however for me its about how they are sent to prison, case in point the prosecutor/ judge that was sentenced to 10 days for withholding evidence in case. Who else did he screw? Then there is the prosecutor from the Duke lacrosse case. How about the Zimmerman trial and all the prosecutorial bs that went on there? 90% of convictions are plea deals. How many of those plea deals were told to take the deal because they were looking at even more time and would likely be convicted despite being innocent. One case that comes to mind for me is the case that happened here in Kern county a while back http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kern_Co...buse_cases.Its not nearly as cut and dried as we would like it. If it was I would be right there with you. Until we reform the prosecutorial system I would rather err on the side of caution.
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    Re: Texas Scientists Given Green Light To Use Sex Offenders For Medical Research

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    1.)I can understand however for me its about how they are sent to prison, case in point the prosecutor/ judge that was sentenced to 10 days for withholding evidence in case. Who else did he screw?
    2.) Then there is the prosecutor from the Duke lacrosse case. How about the Zimmerman trial and all the prosecutorial bs that went on there?
    3.) 90% of convictions are plea deals. How many of those plea deals were told to take the deal because they were looking at even more time and would likely be convicted despite being innocent.
    4.)One case that comes to mind for me is the case that happened here in Kern county a while back http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kern_Co...buse_cases.Its not nearly as cut and dried as we would like it. If it was I would be right there with you. Until we reform the prosecutorial system I would rather err on the side of caution.
    1.) now this i agree 100% it is an legit issue, i should have been more clear, while i fully support the death penalty and favor its expansion im also totally for improving the process and making it more concrete.
    Combination of Video, DNA, confession etc or something like that
    2.) i agree with this stuff but i want the process fixed not the punishments lightened or lessened.
    3.) "despite being "innocent" in todays world? id guess not many but again this has nothing to do with death penalty
    4.) well thats what needs done, improvement to the system but i keep it running

    and to be honest i would bring back a public version of executions, the deterrent is more powerful when it can be seen or is seen, the reality sinks in even deeper.
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    Re: Texas Scientists Given Green Light To Use Sex Offenders For Medical Research

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    If it was me I would offer it to those sentenced to death or to life without parole first. Then go down the list. Non violent offenders would be last. I would also sweeten the pot for the volunteers if they take on particularly disfiguring or dangerous experiments. No active recruiting just put a notice out and full disclosure of exactly what may happen.
    As I noted, the chances that extremely violent offenders would be used is slim. The risk (to staff) involved with these folks is extreme since they have absolutely nothung to lose and they can never be released.
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    Re: Texas Scientists Given Green Light To Use Sex Offenders For Medical Research

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    As I noted, the chances that extremely violent offenders would be used is slim. The risk (to staff) involved with these folks is extreme since they have absolutely nothung to lose and they can never be released.
    Non violent offenders would be pointless to offer as they will likely not take up the offer, mainly because they have much shorter sentences and the comparative risk is immense.

    I would sweeten the pot and say if they A) comply with all directives and B) volunteer for the nasty potentially lethal and or disfiguring experiments they can get significant time off their sentence. Ie a chance for parole and or a less than life term. The more they participate the more time comes off. Basically if they want a chance to see daylight without bars they become a human guinea pig. That may make them much more amiable to be cooperative.
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