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    Re: Racist Bill Clinton Criticizes President Obama

    Nice one Erod. That should take care of any that don't know about Media Sources in the first place.

    Anytime they start complainin about any reference sources that have been validated. Slam that **** home on them.

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    Re: BILL CLINTON TO OBAMA: 'Honor Your Commitment' On Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by CanadaJohn View Post
    Good morning Pero - you're absolutely right. We have to remember that about 65 House Democrats went down to defeat in 2010 because of their vote for the ACA and they didn't turtle and desert the bill or the President when they got flack at home - they stood up for their vote and suffered the consequences. I'll always remember the pro-life Pennsylvannia Democrat Representative, although I can't remember his name right now, who let a pro-life type Democrat caucus in the House who resisted the ACA until the last minute because the President made promises that the ACA would not force those who oppose abortion to offer or support contraception and abortion services. He looked truly troubled when he cast his vote for the bill and as it turns out the President betrayed him too. He subsequently chose not to run for reelection, perhaps feeling he'd let his constituents down.
    Running away from your vote usually doesn't work anyway. Distancing one self from the president usually doesn't work either unless you are really popular back in your home state or district. So some can get away with it, most don't. Landrieu going to Lake Charles instead of being on stage with the president when he was in New Orleans isn't going to help distance herself from her yea vote in 2010.

    McCaskill of Missouri a yea vote in 2010 and in deep trouble in Missouri which was around 60% against the ACA won last year, but the GOP helped her out tremendously by nominating Aiken to run against her and gave the people of Missouri a choice between one candidate with a 61% disapproval rating and another with a 70% disapproval rating. Republican ineptness. So the people of Missouri are now represented by someone whom 61% of Missourians didn't want, the true lesser of two evils for them.

    We have entered an era where party loyalty has replaced loyalty to country, state and district. To the people they are suppose to represent, now most in Washington represent their party, not the people who elected them.
    This Reform Party member thinks it is high past time that we start electing Americans to congress and the presidency who put America first and their political party further down the line. But for way too long we have been electing Republicans and Democrats who happen to be Americans instead of Americans who happen to be Republicans and Democrats.

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    Re: Racist Bill Clinton Criticizes President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by ttwtt78640 View Post
    The PPACA grandfathering provision is a joke. The "grandfathered" plans must change to remove any annual/lifetime caps, cover children until age 26 and still keep the co-pay, deductible and premium rates basically unchanged from those in 2010.
    Mornin Ttwtt. That's the one is killing Obamacare now......people keeping their kids on their insurance until 26. Obama needs those young people and their money, in order to make his scam work.

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    Re: Racist Bill Clinton Criticizes President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The source requires anyone interested in debate to double-check basic facts. It introduces the OP as "hello, I'll use Alex Jones as a source, and I'd like to discuss blahblah". CT blogs, RT, PressTV, Cuban and Venezuelan regime media arms as citation, great. Someone might as well open with "On Coast to Coast AM, I heard..." Even if the article includes context and is reported without blatant slant, the source says "cite anything" for evidence as a standard for the debate.


    ps. My "beloved" msnbc? I haven't owned a TV in ~15 years and cannot imagine going to such a fringe website. I couldn't name 2 people featured on that channel.
    I call BS.....you know who Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews is and you have talked about them on this site. So you know they work for MSDNC.

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    Re: Racist Bill Clinton Criticizes President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    Mornin Ttwtt. That's the one is killing Obamacare now......people keeping their kids on their insurance until 26. Obama needs those young people and their money, in order to make his scam work.
    Obama needs a lot more than that for this scam to work. Like a whole new healthcare plan.
    Liberals - Punish the Successful, Reward the Unsuccessful
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    Obama's legacy - President Donald Trump

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    Re: Racist Bill Clinton Criticizes President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by Born Free View Post
    Obama needs a lot more than that for this scam to work. Like a whole new healthcare plan.
    Mornin BF. that's True.....and there will be more structural problems. Seems Ryan's Crystal ball going back to Bowles Simpson is all coming true.

    Moreover Obamacare is nothing more than the Grandmothered Hillarycare. That why Bilbo is out telling Obama to.....FIX it!

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    Re: BILL CLINTON TO OBAMA: 'Honor Your Commitment' On Obamacare

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    That's exactly what I thought. Ah. So this is Hillary's opening gambit to gain some sunlight between her and the President.
    Well, Bill was for it before he was against it. He was the explainer. Now? http://www.nytimes.com/2013/11/13/us...-law.html?_r=0

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    Re: Racist Bill Clinton Criticizes President Obama

    And posting your criticism of the source proves many things. First it proves your mind is closed to anyone's views but those you support and endorse. It proves you prefer not to address the topic but instead the source. If I don't care for the source I'll point out why - their bias for instance but if the source proves to be simply reporting facts that can't be disputed I'll at least stay on topic - something you haven't bothered to even try. Does it hurt that much that billy jeff played your little bama like the fool he is?


    Quote Originally Posted by ecofarm View Post
    The source requires anyone interested in debate to double-check basic facts. It introduces the OP as "hello, I'll use Alex Jones as a source, and I'd like to discuss blahblah". CT blogs, RT, PressTV, Cuban and Venezuelan regime media arms as citation, great. Someone might as well open with "On Coast to Coast AM, I heard..." Even if the article includes context and is reported without blatant slant, the source says "cite anything" for evidence as a standard for the debate.


    ps. My "beloved" msnbc? I haven't owned a TV in ~15 years and cannot imagine going to such a fringe website. I couldn't name 2 people featured on that channel.

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    Re: Racist Bill Clinton Criticizes President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by MMC View Post
    I call BS.....you know who Rachel Maddow and Chris Matthews is and you have talked about them on this site. So you know they work for MSDNC.
    I've seen youtube clips of Matthews primarily because of the misogyny he spews, particularly towards Hillary. I don't think I've mentioned Maddow, I've no idea anything about her.

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    Re: Racist Bill Clinton Criticizes President Obama

    Quote Originally Posted by American View Post
    He said it, what's your problem?
    Problem is with using that source as an OP. It requires anyone interested to double-check the information, and any analysis or conclusions are highly suspect and most certainly slanted viciously.

    Just because the basic premise of the article is true does not make the article believable in its entirety. And with that site, the basis could be false by misrepresentation. It's just a crappy blog, this place would be an equivalent citation.

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