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Gallup: 76% Of Americans Support A Minimum Wage Increase

If higher wages are better then why not make then really high, like $250 an hour. Under your concept that would really BOOST the economy.
If less regulation is preferable, why not allow the Chinese to sweeten their toothpaste with antifreeze? Wait, that's a really stupid leap isn't it?
 
When you don't provide people what they need to lift themselves out of poverty, or when you don't provide assistance when (despite all their best efforts) they are unable to do so themselves, don't you just perpetuate the cycle. Why not make sure they are capable of providing a safe home, decent nutrition, a good education and decent healthcare especially to those who are raising children. Poverty is oppressive and as a child born into that your work to build a better life is already profoundly more difficult then someone who does not have those challenges to overcome. I do not see the benefit, other than to protect what you consider yours, in denying these people those basic things. Minimum wage jobs are not just for college students and high school kids anymore, people raise children on those wages, or at least attempt to.
 
This really shouldn't be something to argue about.

Wages never increase proportionately with the supply and quality of goods and services because laborers are locked into their employment by their life situations, which means industry leaders can stall out increasing wages while capitalizing on the profits to expand their businesses by attracting more investors and expanding operations to new markets. No matter how little a company's success translates into a pay raise for the little guy, it takes a long time before selling your house, uprooting your family, and taking a gamble on a new job somewhere else seems like a more economically feasible option.

Such cost cutting measures have obvious short term advantages for individual economic units, but it undermines capitalism on the whole because making wealth inaccessible depresses the labor necessary to create it. While each individual unit only adds to this problem bit by tiny bit, all of them adding to it together over long periods of time creates significant problem spots in our market.

Even Adam Smith knew that.
 
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I would support a minimum wage increase of $2-3 over the course of a few years, but tied with that we also need to cut back on social programs.
 
I would support a minimum wage increase of $2-3 over the course of a few years, but tied with that we also need to cut back on social programs.

For that to maybe work we would also have to revise our trade agreements to make foreign labor more inaccessible . . . then wait a decade or so for things to even out after our trade partners retaliate.

High domestic unemployment is the first pillar of the world economic order.
 
So now everyone who works a minimum wage job is "lazy"? ]

Do they have an education? Have they made good decisions in their lives? Minimum wage jobs are intended for kids who still live at home and are going to school. They are not intended as a living wage.
 
I'd like to see a minimum WEEKLY wage. The current $7.25 is OK enough. So, the minimum weekly wage would be $300. That will bring this using people part time **** to a screeching halt and no actual cost will increase.
 
When you don't provide people what they need to lift themselves out of poverty, or when you don't provide assistance when (despite all their best efforts) they are unable to do so themselves, don't you just perpetuate the cycle. Why not make sure they are capable of providing a safe home, decent nutrition, a good education and decent healthcare especially to those who are raising children. Poverty is oppressive and as a child born into that your work to build a better life is already profoundly more difficult then someone who does not have those challenges to overcome. I do not see the benefit, other than to protect what you consider yours, in denying these people those basic things. Minimum wage jobs are not just for college students and high school kids anymore, people raise children on those wages, or at least attempt to.

50 years and trillions of dollars has only produced more poor people.
 
I would be Ok if the min wage was on par with what a welfare recipient made. It's my understanding that at the current avg for min wage for 40 hrs is less than what the avg recipient receives in welfare (I'm currently too tires to look it up :) ).

Cut welfare benefits to below what average minimum wage is.
 
Do they have an education? Have they made good decisions in their lives? Minimum wage jobs are intended for kids who still live at home and are going to school. They are not intended as a living wage.

Instead, a lot of them are going to college grads who are deeply in debt that they can't pay.
 
Instead, a lot of them are going to college grads who are deeply in debt that they can't pay.

That's what happens when you get a crappy degree with no job prospects and have spent all of your life to date in a classroom without ever having a job with which to develop job skills and a work ethic.
 
So now everyone who works a minimum wage job is "lazy"? ]

Don't bother trying to explain that to them. Most of the conservatives here seem to feel like anyone making less money than they are is a shiftless loser, no matter how many hours they work.

I think the idea is that if a minumum wage job is not paying enough then that person will need to find a way to get payed more in that job or to seek another job that pays more. This may not be easy, but trying to get it thru by increasing the minimum wage is not the way to achieve it since the costs of services and such will go up with the required wage making the new higher wage mostly null.
 
Interesting. Perhaps you might find the opinion of these uneducated scrubs worth noting: Poll Results | IGM Forum

The results aren't nearly as one sided as you seem to presume, due to more recent studies conducted that find the negative effect of wage hikes to have been previously overstated.

What studies?
 
Given that our economy has not recovered yet we should not raise the minimum wage. If we were in a boom period a raise of the minimum wage would be an option.

Given that because of Obama Care has caused capital not to be invested due to uncertainty we should wait to raise it until thing become more leveled off.

Given that each State can raise their minimum wage if it is necessary, we do not need a allover minimum wage increase for the whole country.

Until we have a handle on the employment of illegal immigrants the raising of the minimum wage will not be effective due to payments of the illegals a substandard wage will only encourage more of that.
 
Given that our economy has not recovered yet we should not raise the minimum wage. If we were in a boom period a raise of the minimum wage would be an option.

Given that because of Obama Care has caused capital not to be invested due to uncertainty we should wait to raise it until thing become more leveled off.

Given that each State can raise their minimum wage if it is necessary, we do not need a allover minimum wage increase for the whole country.

Until we have a handle on the employment of illegal immigrants the raising of the minimum wage will not be effective due to payments of the illegals a substandard wage will only encourage more of that.

That sounds about right.
 
Raising the minimum wage is good because the money is immediately spent boosting the economy plus there is little evidence it lowers employment levels. Of course conservatives will come up with anecdotal evidence trying to prove their point, but whenever the minimum wage is raised in Oregon employment isn't hurt.


Gallup: 76% Of Americans Support A Minimum Wage Increase

More than three quarters of Americans support an increase in the minimum wage, according to a Gallup Poll released Monday.
Seventy-six percent said the minimum wage should be raised to $9 per hour, a five point jump from March. A law that would raise the minimum wage and tie future minimum wage increases to inflation got slightly less support at 69 percent.

Fifty-six percent of Republicans said they oppose linking the minimum wage to inflation, while only eight percent of Democrats opposed that type of measure.

Voters in New Jersey approved a measure Tuesday that raises the minimum wage in the state to $8.25 and ties further increases to inflation.

Do I support a minimum wage? Do I support cutting employment? It is the same thing. I do not think it smart.

If the government wants to increase the income of the needy, it should send them a check. That way the guy (taxpayer) that wants to do it takes the hit himself and we know, what it costs.
 
I think the idea is that if a minumum wage job is not paying enough then that person will need to find a way to get payed more in that job or to seek another job that pays more. This may not be easy, but trying to get it thru by increasing the minimum wage is not the way to achieve it since the costs of services and such will go up with the required wage making the new higher wage mostly null.

However, the cost of living has gone up over the years and the MW has stayed the same. The current federal MW was set at $7.25 in 2009. I don't see $9-10 being an issue now.

And to those who claim this raise will cost jobs ... BULL****. McDonalds could raise the price of a Big Mac 5 cents and have their wage differential set.
 
That's what happens when you get a crappy degree with no job prospects and have spent all of your life to date in a classroom without ever having a job with which to develop job skills and a work ethic.

Yes, because every college graduate who can't get a job in this market is what you described.

What color is the sky in your world?
 
That's what happens when you get a crappy degree with no job prospects and have spent all of your life to date in a classroom without ever having a job with which to develop job skills and a work ethic.

which, in turn, is what happens when every student is put on an academic course of study, regardless of his/her aptitudes and desires. College simply isn't for everyone.
 
Cut welfare benefits to below what average minimum wage is.

So if the right claims that the min wage is not a "living" wage and the person is on welfare because they need help to live, what will that accomplish?

Welfare needs reform, but it needs smart reform. I'm not saying your idea can't be incorporated into a bigger "reform" of sorts, but just dropping the welfare to below min wage is not going to accomplish anything substantial on it's own.
 
So if the right claims that the min wage is not a "living" wage and the person is on welfare because they need help to live, what will that accomplish?

Welfare needs reform, but it needs smart reform. I'm not saying your idea can't be incorporated into a bigger "reform" of sorts, but just dropping the welfare to below min wage is not going to accomplish anything substantial on it's own.

It was just a suggestion so slow down.

The reform that needs to take plaxe, is to take the people who are capable of working off welfare. There are too many people getting welfare, that don't need it.
 
Raising the minimum wage is good because the money is immediately spent boosting the economy plus there is little evidence it lowers employment levels. Of course conservatives will come up with anecdotal evidence trying to prove their point, but whenever the minimum wage is raised in Oregon employment isn't hurt.


Gallup: 76% Of Americans Support A Minimum Wage Increase

More than three quarters of Americans support an increase in the minimum wage, according to a Gallup Poll released Monday.
Seventy-six percent said the minimum wage should be raised to $9 per hour, a five point jump from March. A law that would raise the minimum wage and tie future minimum wage increases to inflation got slightly less support at 69 percent.

Fifty-six percent of Republicans said they oppose linking the minimum wage to inflation, while only eight percent of Democrats opposed that type of measure.

Voters in New Jersey approved a measure Tuesday that raises the minimum wage in the state to $8.25 and ties further increases to inflation.

Then 76% of those polled are as stupid as a bag of hammers.

Increase the minimum wage or mandate a "living wage" and all you've done is raised the bar as consumers are forced to pick up the extra cost of the mandated wage increase.

Haven't you people screwed the middle class enough already ?
 
Then 76% of those polled are as stupid as a bag of hammers.

Increase the minimum wage or mandate a "living wage" and all you've done is raised the bar as consumers are forced to pick up the extra cost of the mandated wage increase.

Haven't you people screwed the middle class enough already ?
Not true, the selling price of items is mostly controlled by supply and demand.
 
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