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    Re: Gallup: 76% Of Americans Support A Minimum Wage Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    However, the cost of living has gone up over the years and the MW has stayed the same. The current federal MW was set at $7.25 in 2009. I don't see $9-10 being an issue now.

    And to those who claim this raise will cost jobs ... BULL****. McDonalds could raise the price of a Big Mac 5 cents and have their wage differential set.
    It probably should be adjusted to inflation every 3-5 years. That would get us closer to $8 than $9.

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    Re: Gallup: 76% Of Americans Support A Minimum Wage Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Fenton View Post
    Then 76% of those polled are as stupid as a bag of hammers.

    Increase the minimum wage or mandate a "living wage" and all you've done is raised the bar as consumers are forced to pick up the extra cost of the mandated wage increase.

    Haven't you people screwed the middle class enough already ?
    So then you're all about giving the people what they want, until it's something you don't want them to have. Got it.

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    Re: Gallup: 76% Of Americans Support A Minimum Wage Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    So then you're all about giving the people what they want, until it's something you don't want them to have. Got it.
    I will not support using the coercive power of government to F*** over poor people. I'm fine with my position if I find myself in the minority in that.

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    Re: Gallup: 76% Of Americans Support A Minimum Wage Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    And to those who claim this raise will cost jobs ... BULL****.
    Not at all. Labor exists on a supply/demand curve, the same as any other good or service. When you put a price floor on it, just like any other good or service, therefore, you reduce demand. That was the intent of the minimum wage, after all, and that is how it functions.

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    Re: Gallup: 76% Of Americans Support A Minimum Wage Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by Kobie View Post
    Yes, because every college graduate who can't get a job in this market is what you described.

    What color is the sky in your world?
    We're not talking about just this market, we're talking about ever. You can't use current circumstances to dismiss all the people who have been working minimum wage jobs for years because they've made bad decisions in their lives. That's patently dishonest.
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    Re: Gallup: 76% Of Americans Support A Minimum Wage Increase

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    Re: Gallup: 76% Of Americans Support A Minimum Wage Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    I will not support using the coercive power of government to F*** over poor people. I'm fine with my position if I find myself in the minority in that.
    But the people WANT a raise in the min wage. Conservatives can't have it both ways without being hypocritical. Conservatievs have been parroting that the majority want to get rid of ACA, so the GOP should fight to get rid of it. Now the people want a raise in the min wage, now you're saying the GOP shouldn't fight for what the people want.

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    Re: Gallup: 76% Of Americans Support A Minimum Wage Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by TheNextEra View Post
    But the people WANT a raise in the min wage. Conservatives can't have it both ways without being hypocritical. Conservatievs have been parroting that the majority want to get rid of ACA, so the GOP should fight to get rid of it. Now the people want a raise in the min wage, now you're saying the GOP shouldn't fight for what the people want.
    my opposition to the ACA isn't predicated on the fact that it's unpopular (though I am more than happy to leverage that). Some of the dumber aspects of the ACA (such as not allowing insurance to act as insurance) are, in fact, popular. Conservatives oppose the ACA because it's destructive policy. Much like the minimum wage.

    Hell, I support entitlement reform - how "popular" is that?


    Those who would argue for a minimum wage increase based on it's popularity (rather than the dubious idea that it is wise policy) are the ones here who place themselves at risk for hypocrisy.
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    Re: Gallup: 76% Of Americans Support A Minimum Wage Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by cpwill View Post
    Not at all. Labor exists on a supply/demand curve, the same as any other good or service. When you put a price floor on it, just like any other good or service, therefore, you reduce demand. That was the intent of the minimum wage, after all, and that is how it functions.
    Paying people more money increases demand.
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    Re: Gallup: 76% Of Americans Support A Minimum Wage Increase

    Quote Originally Posted by pbrauer View Post
    Raising the minimum wage is good because the money is immediately spent boosting the economy plus there is little evidence it lowers employment levels. Of course conservatives will come up with anecdotal evidence trying to prove their point, but whenever the minimum wage is raised in Oregon employment isn't hurt.


    Gallup: 76% Of Americans Support A Minimum Wage Increase

    More than three quarters of Americans support an increase in the minimum wage, according to a Gallup Poll released Monday.
    Seventy-six percent said the minimum wage should be raised to $9 per hour, a five point jump from March. A law that would raise the minimum wage and tie future minimum wage increases to inflation got slightly less support at 69 percent.

    Fifty-six percent of Republicans said they oppose linking the minimum wage to inflation, while only eight percent of Democrats opposed that type of measure.

    Voters in New Jersey approved a measure Tuesday that raises the minimum wage in the state to $8.25 and ties further increases to inflation.
    And 75% of Americans are clueless about the increases in price for the goods and services that will result from an increase in labor.

    They are also clueless that a substantial price increase can quickly slow economic growth if the demand for those goods and services drop due to the corresponding price increase.

    They also do not understand that economic demand should drive the price of labor, not the government.

    Finally, when they can no longer afford said goods and services, then they will complain about high prices.
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