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    Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election

    So far three conservative members of this community have made reference to low information voters.

    I guess that means that the voters in this district were uninformed about who (what race) the winning candidate actually was, and made assumptions based on potentially misleading campaign propaganda.

    Typically calling someone a "low information voter" is a bit of an insult, to the extent that these voters or too dumb, indifferent, or gullible to actually go out and seek truly relevant information when making a decision about who to vote for.

    What I found funny though was that this article makes no actual reference to any voters complaining that they were duped.

    A losing candidate makes that accusation, sure, but there's no corroboration from the actual voters.

    So for all we know it's entirely possible that many, most, even potentially all voters knew exactly who they were voting for and voted for reasons entirely unrelated to race.

    So in a paradoxical way the conservative members of this community who are leveling the charge of "low information voter" are actually, themselves, "low information posters", basing their positions on a sheep-like belief that they charges the losing candidate is making are actually accurate.

    That just sort of tickled my funny bone.
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    Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election

    Quote Originally Posted by DaveFagan View Post
    Wouldn't that be a partisan comment on the poor quality, or lack of quality of the opposition candidates.
    No...actually..I think that would be far more a direct commentary on the individuals that pull the lever more so than ANYTHING said about either candidate.

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    Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    So far three conservative members of this community have made reference to low information voters.

    I guess that means that the voters in this district were uninformed about who (what race) the winning candidate actually was, and made assumptions based on potentially misleading campaign propaganda.

    Typically calling someone a "low information voter" is a bit of an insult, to the extent that these voters or too dumb, indifferent, or gullible to actually go out and seek truly relevant information when making a decision about who to vote for.

    What I found funny though was that this article makes no actual reference to any voters complaining that they were duped.

    A losing candidate makes that accusation, sure, but there's no corroboration from the actual voters.

    So for all we know it's entirely possible that many, most, even potentially all voters knew exactly who they were voting for and voted for reasons entirely unrelated to race.

    So in a paradoxical way the conservative members of this community who are leveling the charge of "low information voter" are actually, themselves, "low information posters", basing their positions on a sheep-like belief that they charges the losing candidate is making are actually accurate.

    That just sort of tickled my funny bone.
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    Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    Of course it's relevant. It isn't a binary thing - voters are responsible for knowing about the candidates but candidates are also responsible for presenting honest and accurate information. By saying the content of flyers is irrelevant your basically promoting outright lies in elections (which we pretty much have already).
    Context is everything. And admittedly so is presenting a full presentation and I may have failed in that. My "irrelevent" comment was meant to be taken in the context that voters are responsible for checking out the person they are voting for fully. We know politicians lie so relying solely on what a politician puts out without checking that information is rather stupid.

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    No, I'm outright stating that is what he was intentionally suggesting. It's the kind of thing most politicians do in their flyers because they're mostly dishonest scum.
    I can't, and won't, argue that it is the kind of things that politicians do. But whether he is intentionally suggesting or not is entirely dependent on a certain point of view.

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    Oh come on! There was no legitimate reason to advertise the fact his cousin supported him. It is clear he intended to mislead voters and put in the small print because that's the only thing keeping it technically legal.
    Why not advertise that someone (anyone) supports you? I'm not saying you are wrong mind you. All that I am doing is giving another point of view.

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    If you really believe that, you're as corrupt and dishonest as the political scum themselves.
    But there isn't any dishonest information in that flyer. Everything in it is factual and can be proven with facts and logic. From a certain point of view there might be parts of it that might be morally dishonest. But it 100% is not factually dishonest.
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    Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election

    Quote Originally Posted by soot View Post
    So far three conservative members of this community have made reference to low information voters.

    I guess that means that the voters in this district were uninformed about who (what race) the winning candidate actually was, and made assumptions based on potentially misleading campaign propaganda.

    Typically calling someone a "low information voter" is a bit of an insult, to the extent that these voters or too dumb, indifferent, or gullible to actually go out and seek truly relevant information when making a decision about who to vote for.

    What I found funny though was that this article makes no actual reference to any voters complaining that they were duped.

    A losing candidate makes that accusation, sure, but there's no corroboration from the actual voters.

    So for all we know it's entirely possible that many, most, even potentially all voters knew exactly who they were voting for and voted for reasons entirely unrelated to race.

    So in a paradoxical way the conservative members of this community who are leveling the charge of "low information voter" are actually, themselves, "low information posters", basing their positions on a sheep-like belief that they charges the losing candidate is making are actually accurate.

    That just sort of tickled my funny bone.
    1: Its not only conservatives that are doing this. Liberals are doing it to by implication that the voters only went by the things released by Mr. Wilson.

    2: To be honest most voters ARE low information voters. And that is true no matter their party affiliation. You can't honestly deny that there are a crap ton of people that vote only along party lines due to preconcieved notions of how the other side is "eeeeviiiil". And before responding to this part of my post please note that I did say "MOST"...not ALL. There are indeed people on both sides that actually do the homework and vote accordingly or still along party lines depending on just how partisan they are.
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    Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election

    Well, here's a case where about 100% thought they were voting for a black guy....


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    Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election

    Quote Originally Posted by VanceMack View Post
    97% voted for a guy that presided over the worst set of economic indicators directly impacting the black community and one that had absolutely no plan or promise of 'hope' or 'change'. So...there MIGHT just be some validity to your statement.
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    Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    We know politicians lie so relying solely on what a politician puts out without checking that information is rather stupid.
    True, but that still makes defending their lies, even indirectly, disgusting.

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    But there isn't any dishonest information in that flyer. Everything in it is factual and can be proven with facts and logic. From a certain point of view there might be parts of it that might be morally dishonest. But it 100% is not factually dishonest.
    That's like the "there's rape and rape rape" argument. He was dishonest, full stop. The only difference between him and countless politicians before him is that he was called out on it (albeit, by another dishonest politician). You can either condemn his dishonesty or support it. So far, you have failed to do the former.

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    Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election

    Quote Originally Posted by HonestJoe View Post
    True, but that still makes defending their lies, even indirectly, disgusting.

    That's like the "there's rape and rape rape" argument. He was dishonest, full stop. The only difference between him and countless politicians before him is that he was called out on it (albeit, by another dishonest politician). You can either condemn his dishonesty or support it. So far, you have failed to do the former.
    I have also failed to do the latter. All I am doing is offering up another point of view. I have neither supported nor condemned what the guy did.
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    Re: White candidate pretends to be black to win election

    Quote Originally Posted by Kal'Stang View Post
    To be honest most voters ARE low information voters. And that is true no matter their party affiliation. You can't honestly deny that there are a crap ton of people that vote only along party lines due to preconcieved notions of how the other side is "eeeeviiiil". And before responding to this part of my post please note that I did say "MOST"...not ALL. There are indeed people on both sides that actually do the homework and vote accordingly or still along party lines depending on just how partisan they are.
    I agree completely.

    Heck, when you get right down to it I'm frequently a "low information voter". Not always, and not when I think it counts, but I do it. I frequently vote against incumbents on the simple basis that things currently suck and we need to throw ALL the bums out. I may be voting for the next Hitler for all I know, but at the time the fact that he's not the incumbent is sufficient for my purposes.
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