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    'We Shouldn't Be Putting Journalists in Jail': Fox News Reporter Faces Jail Time...

    'We Shouldn't Be Putting Journalists in Jail': Fox News Reporter Faces Jail Time Unless She Reveals Sources

    In the summer of 2012, James Holmes shot and killed 12 people and injured more than 50 others at a movie theater in Aurora, Colorado. As the nation asked why, FoxNews.com reporter Jana Winter was the first to break the story about a notebook Holmes sent a psychiatrist that detailed his plans for the rampage.

    Holmes’ attorneys say Winter must give up her sources regarding the notebook because the leaked information hampers their client’s right to a fair trial. Winter is hoping a judge will uphold New York’s media shield law, which protects journalists from revealing sources. If the judge doesn’t, she’ll have to return to a Colorado court where she faces possible jail time.
    I can't believe they want to put this woman in jail. Protecting ones sources, as a journalist, is an absolute MUST. Without that protection then NO journalist anywhere in the US would be able to do their job.
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    Re: 'We Shouldn't Be Putting Journalists in Jail': Fox News Reporter Faces Jail Time.

    I'm all for shield laws and protecting sources, but this journal is also evidenciary.
    Might be a way to protect the source and allow the journal to be used?
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    Re: 'We Shouldn't Be Putting Journalists in Jail': Fox News Reporter Faces Jail Time.

    As far as I'm concerned, the journalist's obligation to protect their sources is as sacrosanct as the right of any person to not be compelled to give evidence against themselves.

    If the evidence and an inability to impeach the source's credibility hurts the defense's case, the only outcome i'd find acceptable is that the journal gets thrown out.
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    Re: 'We Shouldn't Be Putting Journalists in Jail': Fox News Reporter Faces Jail Time.

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    As far as I'm concerned, the journalist's obligation to protect their sources is as sacrosanct as the right of any person to not be compelled to give evidence against themselves.

    If the evidence and an inability to impeach the source's credibility hurts the defense's case, the only outcome i'd find acceptable is that the journal gets thrown out.
    No right is absolute. This isn't cut and dried; her rights conflict with the right of the accused to have a fair trial. Both are extremely important rights.

    I don't know what the right outcome here is, but it's not black and white.
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    Re: 'We Shouldn't Be Putting Journalists in Jail': Fox News Reporter Faces Jail Time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    No right is absolute. This isn't cut and dried; her rights conflict with the right of the accused to have a fair trial. Both are extremely important rights.

    I don't know what the right outcome here is, but it's not black and white.
    While I agree that no right is absolute, I am curious to know under what circumstances the authorities have been permitted to force someone to testify against themselves. I'm not talking about fingerprints or DNA samples, that's the collection of evidence via a warrant.
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    Re: 'We Shouldn't Be Putting Journalists in Jail': Fox News Reporter Faces Jail Time.

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    I am curious to know under what circumstances the authorities have been permitted to force someone to testify against themselves.
    What does that have to do with it?
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    Re: 'We Shouldn't Be Putting Journalists in Jail': Fox News Reporter Faces Jail Time.

    Quote Originally Posted by Harshaw View Post
    What does that have to do with it?
    I likened her need to protect her sources with the individuals right to not be compelled to testify against themselves. Your response was that no right is absolute, and while I agree that made me wonder under what circumstances the authorities have been permitted to force someone to testify against themselves. Mental tangent, please feel free to ignore it.

    How about throwing the journal out as evidence, does that strike the right balance between her rights and his?
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    Re: 'We Shouldn't Be Putting Journalists in Jail': Fox News Reporter Faces Jail Time.

    Quote Originally Posted by TacticalEvilDan View Post
    How about throwing the journal out as evidence, does that strike the right balance between her rights and his?
    I don't know enough about the details of the case to say. Her first amendment claims wouldn't have much to do with it, because evidentiary standards are a separate concern. I don't see how you discard the state's evidence because of the defense's call for discovery. The defense isn't challenging the journal. The defense is calling for more evidence.
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    Re: 'We Shouldn't Be Putting Journalists in Jail': Fox News Reporter Faces Jail Time.

    I don't think the argument that this impacts a fair trial holds water. How many times do you see a report from police or what not stating they used DNA to find a suspect. Or social media or some other evidence prior to a trial.

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    Re: 'We Shouldn't Be Putting Journalists in Jail': Fox News Reporter Faces Jail Time.

    Fox doesn't want their reporters jailed, but Snowden, Manning, and Assange are fair game, right? All journalism needs protection, not just those backed up by a major corporation.
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