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    Googlers say “F*** you” to NSA, company encrypts internal network

    Hopefully this is true and they start a trend in companies refusing to aid in spying.


    Googlers say

    Google has started to encrypt its traffic between its data centers, effectively halting the broad surveillance of its inner workings by the joint National Security Agency-GCHQ program known as MUSCULAR. The move turns off a giant source of information to the two agencies, which at one point accounted for nearly a third of the NSA's daily data intake for its primary intelligence analysis database—at least for now.

    Yesterday, the Washington Post shared additional slides produced by the NSA on the MUSCULAR program, which tapped into the fiber-optic networks carrying traffic to and from Google's and Yahoo's overseas data centers. The slides indicated that data from the networks frequently reached the daily intelligence briefing provided to President Barack Obama. They cited the joint operation with GHCQ as the fifteenth-largest source of intelligence data for those briefings.
    The slides also revealed that the NSA obtained an intimate understanding of the internal operations of these networks, which suggests it either launched a significant reverse-engineering operation to pry apart Google's and Yahoo's secrets or it obtained this information from people who worked for the two companies (maybe even some combination of the two). Either way, the effort amounts to a major intelligence operation to discover the trade secrets of two major American companies.
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    Re: Googlers say “F*** you” to NSA, company encrypts internal network

    Quote Originally Posted by jamesrage View Post
    Hopefully this is true and they start a trend in companies refusing to aid in spying.


    Googlers say

    Google has started to encrypt its traffic between its data centers, effectively halting the broad surveillance of its inner workings by the joint National Security Agency-GCHQ program known as MUSCULAR. The move turns off a giant source of information to the two agencies, which at one point accounted for nearly a third of the NSA's daily data intake for its primary intelligence analysis database—at least for now.

    Yesterday, the Washington Post shared additional slides produced by the NSA on the MUSCULAR program, which tapped into the fiber-optic networks carrying traffic to and from Google's and Yahoo's overseas data centers. The slides indicated that data from the networks frequently reached the daily intelligence briefing provided to President Barack Obama. They cited the joint operation with GHCQ as the fifteenth-largest source of intelligence data for those briefings.
    The slides also revealed that the NSA obtained an intimate understanding of the internal operations of these networks, which suggests it either launched a significant reverse-engineering operation to pry apart Google's and Yahoo's secrets or it obtained this information from people who worked for the two companies (maybe even some combination of the two). Either way, the effort amounts to a major intelligence operation to discover the trade secrets of two major American companies.
    Good for them. I hope they do more than that. Like take the warrants they receive to court.
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    Re: Googlers say “F*** you” to NSA, company encrypts internal network

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Good for them. I hope they do more than that. Like take the warrants they receive to court.
    Unfortunately it sounds more like they are trying to protect their IP than their users' privacy.

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    Re: Googlers say “F*** you” to NSA, company encrypts internal network

    Quote Originally Posted by Fisher View Post
    Unfortunately it sounds more like they are trying to protect their IP than their users' privacy.
    Still if it screws with the NSA, it works for me.
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    Re: Googlers say “F*** you” to NSA, company encrypts internal network

    Quote Originally Posted by PirateMk1 View Post
    Still if it screws with the NSA, it works for me.
    It probably will help screw with the aggregation of user data being accessed, but it probably won't take the NSA long to get around it.

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    Re: Googlers say “F*** you” to NSA, company encrypts internal network

    I am almost willing to bet that they already gave the NSA the encryption key and/or backdoor access.
    So then this report would be nothing more than to make something appear that isn't, just to appease it's users.
    Last edited by Excon; 11-08-13 at 05:54 PM.
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