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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Well dad got his way on this one.
    He will never have to buy the little prick cigarettes again.
    He must be so proud...

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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Watching joko tell people that going on an "irrational rage" is no reason to shoot someone is absolutely priceless.
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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by Korimyr the Rat View Post
    When police shoot someone, they are shooting to end a threat to themselves or someone else. They are trained to keep shooting until that threat is ended. That training saves lives.

    This wasn't "the death penalty", this was an angry, out-of-control idiot posing a danger to everyone around him and getting put down. If he'd cooperated with the police instead of trying to run them over, he'd have gotten his day of court and probably wouldn't have even gone to prison.

    He didn't deserve to die, but he didn't leave the police much choice about it, either.

    The double standard is amazing.

    I agree that police are being trained to kill anyone who poises a threat. That is my complaint. It is NOT necessary to kill someone who poises a threat and the only option. But if so, then if someone runs into my car in road rage, or if someone is driving crazily, then any private citizen also should empty a firearm into that person to kill that person. Do you agree that EVERYONE should do so - or ONLY police?

    Last year, people in a WalMart store heard a woman on the floor screaming in pain and a man fleeing from this - be chased by WalMart security.

    Some customers joined the chase. That man ran to his car - and with people now beside his car - trapped between it and the cars beside his - threw his car crazily in reverse and bringing it around full throttle including aiming it towards a woman further down the parking lot - with that man taking off on that WalMart parking lot like a bat out of hell - it known the man willing to run over anyone - because he had already run over that woman when fleeing the store. One of those customers fired 3 shots into that car.

    The police arrested him and threw the book at him. People on this forum raged that he was a vigilante! That he endangered everyone by shooting! YET that man 10 times more endangered people with his car than the young man in the pickup truck had.

    If I saw someone stealing one of my old trucks and gave chase in my car - forgetting my cell phone like I often do - and that thief spun out... I stop behind him and shout "TURN IT OFF!" and he instead throws it into reverse backing into my car... so I shot thru the back corner of the cab of the truck with my 45acp 5 times hitting him twice in the chest? PEOPLE WOULD RAGE that I was a murderer and vigilante.

    What that officer did shooting that young man was intolerable, outrageous. The young man wasn't trying to run over police nor could he have. Because he had backed into the police car... so the officer decides "I MUST KILL HIM. I HAVE NO CHOICE OR HE MIGHT DENT MY CRUISER" is truly outrageous.

    When the call came in of a young man upset over his girlfriend breaking and then taking his father's old POS pickup truck in a huff to go buy cigarettes? The REAL response of the police hearing this should have been to smile and think "yeah, I did some really stupid stuff when I was that age too." And treated if for what it was. There was no reason to turn it into a MEDIUM speed chase (they called "high speed"). NO reason to shoot that young man.

    They KNEW that was not a fleeing criminal. KNEW this was not a violent armed person. Nothing of him driving crazily thru town and no reason to turn this into and keep it a high speed chase. Instead, they treated it like he was an armed fleeing bank robber. All they had to do was wait for him to come back home. Nor did that old pickup truck on grass poise any danger other than another dent in a police car. They could have easily disabled the truck with their firearms, not kill the driver.

    Police chases are very common. Always have been. Always will be. This NEW standard of kill every person fleeing the police because there is "danger to others" is NOT acceptable. Yet that is the growing new standard. Kill everyone who poises any potential danger to anyone. BUT ONLY POLICE may do so. Anyone else does so? That non-police is a murdering vigilante. Only police get to be killer vigilantes.

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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Dad Calls Cops on Son to Teach Him a Lesson, Cops Shoot Son Dead

    So basically they shoot an unarmed kid because he won't cut the truck off? This is overkill. Thus proving you cannot trust a government official with a deadly weapon. We can't even trust then with microphones. Maybe we SHOULD disarm police and only allow specially trained officers carry like in the UK. They can't stop shooting people.
    Wont turn off what is in reality a 4500lbs weapon.
    Lesson one, dont take trucks you dont have persmission to.
    Lesson two, stop truck when police try to pull you over.
    Lesson three, turn off truck when told by officer with gun.
    Sorry it all went haywire, but my sympathy is in short supply for dumbasses.

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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The only way to keep a stopped vehicle from getting back on the highway is to shoot the driver.

    Weird. I've had vehicles unable to drive down the road for flat tires and even minor mechanical problems. And I hadn't been killed even one of those times.
    Maybe you should post the dash cam of all that so we can see how its done.

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    All GOOD citizens who legally carry a firearm should immediately shoot anyone who is speeding, runs a redlight or commits any other moving violation in their criminal episode. It is critical they shoot the driver enough times to insure s/he is dead to have permanently ended the danger that criminal poises.

    Redlight and speeding cameras should be equipped with automatic aiming full auto 1911 30.06s that are permanently disabled if removed. Upon detecting a vehicle with a driver criminally violating laws that endangers people, the 1911 would open fire on the driver thus terminating the criminal episode continuing to poise a danger to others. Emergency vehicles would have chips so the system would not activate.

    I suspect that about 25% of the members of this forum should install a two-door delivery box for their residence so they can rely solely on home deliveries for all their needs and therefore never have to go outside into the terrifying, unbelievably dangerous world. Remember, when you go outside you are constant imminent danger from others. STAY INSIDE! BE SAFE!!

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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    All GOOD citizens who legally carry a firearm should immediately shoot anyone who is speeding, runs a redlight or commits any other moving violation in their criminal episode. It is critical they shoot the driver enough times to insure s/he is dead to have permanently ended the danger.

    Redlight and speeding cameras should be equipment with automatic aiming full auto 1911 30.06s that are permanently disabled if removed. Upon detecting a vehicle with a driver criminally violating laws that endangers people, the 1911 would open fire terminating the criminal episode. Emergency vehicles would have chips so the system would not activate.

    I suspect that about 25% of the members of this forum should install a two-door delivery box for their residence so they can rely solely on home deliveries for all needs and therefore never have to go outside into the terrifying, unbelievably dangerous world. Remember, when you go outside you are constant imminent danger from others. STAY INSIDE! BE SAFE!!
    Calm down. Good god man.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Calm down. Good god man.
    I must have lived my life wrongly. In the past as an adult I faced situations of people poising real danger to me. I did not see my only option was to kill that other person(s) because that didn't seem necessary. Rather, generally I went out of my way to not kill them. Now that I do have a badge some apparently think am supposed to kill people who poise a danger, but I don't see it that way. Maybe I'm still making the same mistake. But I don't think so. I have no desire to kill anyone. I have a strong desire not to. Even if I might feel otherwise, I contain it.

    There was NO need to kill that young man, that's my point. The ONLY risk he poised was putting another dent in a squad car, nothing else. I am very much tiring of all the reasons the police MAY kill people, when the person did not deserve to be killed and it was not necessary to do so.

    If a person is unwilling to accept any risks of danger whatsoever under any circumstance, that person has NO business being a law enforcement officer or a member of the military. Instead, open a virtual marketing Internet business so s/he never need go outside. Danger comes with the job. If facing any danger is intolerable to a person, do NOT opt for a career in law enforcement. Instead, open a virtual marketing Internet business so s/he never has to leave their home - which should be an underground concrete bunker.

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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Really, the first indication this was going to go sideways was:

    James Comstock told the Des Moines Register he called the police on his son Tyler after the latter took the former's truck in retaliation for refusing to buy him cigarettes.
    Domestic calls can be crazy and very dangerous for the responding officers and the surrounding community. The kid sealed his fate here.

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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I must have lived my life wrongly. In the past as an adult I faced situations of people poising real danger to me. I never decided my only option was to kill that other person(s) because that didn't seem necessary. Rather, I went out of my way to NOT kill them. Now that I do have a badge so am supposed to according to some, maybe I'm still making the same mistake.

    There was NO need to kill that young man, that's my point. The ONLY risk he poised was putting another dent in a squad car, nothing else. I am very much tiring of all the reasons the police MAY kill people, when the person did not deserve to be killed and it was not necessary to do so.

    If a person is unwilling to accept any risks of danger whatsoever under any circumstance, that person has NO business being a law enforcement officer or a member of the military. Instead, open a virtual marketing Internet business so s/he never need go outside. Danger comes with the job. If facing any danger is intolerable to a person, do NOT opt for a career in law enforcement. Instead, open a virtual marketing Internet business so s/he never has to leave their home - which should be an underground concrete bunker.
    Yeah, and if just one innocent (or the officer) had been harmed or killed by your inability to react to a judgement deficient young man with a 4300 lb weapon your career in law enforcement should be over.

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