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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by MarineTpartier View Post
    Oh, I agree with you that it was stupid. Most definitely. I just hate to think a father lost his son due to his own stupidity.....and now has to live with it. That would be awful. Thanks for your post though.
    If that was NOT the father's truck and was his employer's truck, and since the father knew his son had gotten the keys from him and took it, the father could be charged with accessory to felony auto theft - and as this was a crime-in-progress would be criminally and civilly liable for whatever the son did. If the son did kill someone during the theft, the father also could be prosecuted and sued for it if he had NOT called the police.

    SO> we now read many members believing that a parent MUST agree to be willing to go to prison for the crimes of their adult children. I think that is absurd!

    Then again, we can look at other threads where members ragingly blast parents who did not report their kid to the police.
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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by stonewall50 View Post
    Bingo!!!! They made a stupid ass decision. Why not shoot tires first? Especially on grass? Traction. Hello? I don't think they wanted to kill him, but then again...why are they shooting "at the engine block?" And why leave the safety of a vehicle when the suspect vehicle isn't disabled? Seems that the SMART call would be boxing him in. Once he hit the grass it was game over. That truck had way too many cops nearby to get away.

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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    One of the most interesting parts I find about this story is that the police in question were asked twice to call of the chase. (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/vid.../2808789798001)

    So, why didn't they? As others have already mentioned, they could've responded by just waiting until the kid got home and dealt with him.

    However, something is rather strange to me. In has been stated that "Comstock, at one point, is accused of stopping the vehicle and reversing, pushing the trailer into the police car and partially onto its hood, according to police." (Police Identify 19-Year-Old Killed On Iowa State Campus After Chase | KCRG-TV9 | Cedar Rapids, Iowa News, Sports, and Weather | Top 9)

    People are taking this as fact, however, the only evidence of this at the moment is from the police who have a vested interest in ensuring that they don't look as if they needlessly killed a young man. I think that there needs to be further investigation into that claim.
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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr. Invisible View Post
    One of the most interesting parts I find about this story is that the police in question were asked twice to call of the chase. (http://www.desmoinesregister.com/vid.../2808789798001)

    So, why didn't they? As others have already mentioned, they could've responded by just waiting until the kid got home and dealt with him.

    However, something is rather strange to me. In has been stated that "Comstock, at one point, is accused of stopping the vehicle and reversing, pushing the trailer into the police car and partially onto its hood, according to police." (Police Identify 19-Year-Old Killed On Iowa State Campus After Chase | KCRG-TV9 | Cedar Rapids, Iowa News, Sports, and Weather | Top 9)

    People are taking this as fact, however, the only evidence of this at the moment is from the police who have a vested interest in ensuring that they don't look as if they needlessly killed a young man. I think that there needs to be further investigation into that claim.

    No, his backing a trailer into that cruiser is in the chase video. That statement by police is accurate. He had stopped. He did back the trailer into the police cruiser, and the trailer then came loose.

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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    No, his backing a trailer into that cruiser is in the chase video. That statement by police is accurate. He had stopped. He did back the trailer into the police cruiser, and the trailer then came loose.
    Ah, ok. My bad. I didn't look at the vid.
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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    At least you now acknowledge it was a retailiatory punitive shooting.
    Um, no. I acknowledge he got what he was asking for.

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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    The shift in how people think seems to be that now the question is "MAY the police have shot the person?" from "did the police HAVE to shoot the person?"

    At the same time, elsewhere, arguing people have to basically do nothing to ever defend themselves against assault by police, even if it may cost the person their life.

    There are the rights of Police and rights of citizens.

    That is NOT what the American revolution was about - people furious that the government and it's authorities were too weak and nice.

    If anyone who ever went into an irrational rage on some occasion was shot to death for it? Wouldn't be anywhere NEAR as many members on this forum.

    The photo shows the pickup on the dirt with a 4000 pound cruiser right behind it and another beside it. The tire on the truck showing sure doesn't look flat to me.

    Sure are a lot of people that want the death penalty IF it involves something with the police. Posting that kid deserved to be shot?

    Do you think 5 shots was enough? Maybe it should have been 25 times.

    Candidly, I can't recall a story where an officer shot someone just once. Can you?
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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by CRUE CAB View Post
    Um, no. I acknowledge he got what he was asking for.
    Of course the question is "was he actually ASKING for it?" and whether guns are always necessary?

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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by Henry David View Post
    Of course the question is "was he actually ASKING for it?" and whether guns are always necessary?
    No, sure. They could have just let him go with a pat on the head and a ride to the store for smokes.

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    Re: Dad calls cops on son...cops shoot son

    Quote Originally Posted by joko104 View Post
    I agree. I have no problem with the father calling the police. The son took his employer's truck. The father could lost his job over that and sometimes a parent should call the cops on their kid, although unfortunately that assumes reasonable police response... and I don't think the father really thought that one thru as his son was an adult and would be treated like one. Probably still thought of his kid as a minor.
    Didn't it used to be that you called the cops to teach the kid a lesson and they got a lecture and threat of jail time next time?
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